Block Paved Driveway Question
Block Paved Driveway Question
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Jon C

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3,214 posts

276 months

Wednesday 10th August 2005
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Hoping someone out there will have some suggestions. We moved into our house about 3 years ago, and one of the best things was the pathway and drive being quite classily done in Block Paving. However, after a few years, it is now showing its age a little. The biggest problem is weed growth through the gaps in the paving. These vary from the odd bit of moss and grass, up to some fairly beefy looking weeds with quite deep roots. I spent an afternoon on my hands and knees today pulling up the little blighters by hand. This resulted in a bad back, and about 2 square foot of clear paving with big gaps in between the paving where the roots used to be. I reason that a proprietry weed killer may help, but even if this works, the dead weeds will still need removing. Presumably the gaps will need to be filled ith something, sand or sand / cement mix?
Really looking for tips and suggestions to try to make the driveway look better.

Thanks in Advance

JC

chim_knee

12,689 posts

286 months

Wednesday 10th August 2005
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Jon C said:
Really looking for tips and suggestions to try to make the driveway look better.

Close the curtains?





Sorry, can't help though.

>> Edited by chim_knee on Wednesday 10th August 23:52

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Wednesday 10th August 2005
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Treat the weeds with Roundup to kill them off right to the roots. Once they are dead pull them up. While you are doing this you want to try to get as much soil out of the gaps as you can to prevent future growth. Once that's done, brush lawn sand (available from your local garden centre) into the gaps. That should keep you going for quite a while.

foster3jd

3,773 posts

269 months

Thursday 11th August 2005
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Pathclear will exterminate everything!.... but not as environment friendly as roundup.

siwil1

1,022 posts

260 months

Thursday 11th August 2005
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BliarOut said:
Treat the weeds with Roundup to kill them off right to the roots. Once they are dead pull them up. While you are doing this you want to try to get as much soil out of the gaps as you can to prevent future growth. Once that's done, brush lawn sand (available from your local garden centre) into the gaps. That should keep you going for quite a while.


Did this myself the other day, all looks fine again.

Word of warning dont be tempted to use the jetwash as it blows away all the sand!

vixpy1

42,699 posts

293 months

Thursday 11th August 2005
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Have you tried Explosives?

up-the-dubs

4,282 posts

258 months

Thursday 11th August 2005
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BliarOut said:
Treat the weeds with Roundup to kill them off right to the roots. Once they are dead pull them up. While you are doing this you want to try to get as much soil out of the gaps as you can to prevent future growth. Once that's done, brush lawn sand (available from your local garden centre) into the gaps. That should keep you going for quite a while.


I would have suggested a cement mix for the gaps instead of sand. (Granted I live on the coast = very windy) Would it not blow away eventually? Would it not make it easy for new weeds to grow through?

Don't understand the sand idea so this post may be a bit irrellevent. Just curious as much as anything.

gtr-gaz

5,281 posts

275 months

Thursday 11th August 2005
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cement in the joints would not be a good idea.
For a start it would stain the block paving.

Best thing is to just put weed killer down and brush block paving sand in the joints now and again. It's very fine and gets in the smallest of gaps.

lonny

445 posts

272 months

Thursday 11th August 2005
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You could try a flame gun on the weeds to kill 'em off - should be able to get this in a garden centre. Then use a persistent weedkiller like pathclear to try to keep them down for a few months and repeat as necessary - Watch for runoff with this though if you're worried about plants/grass around the driveway.

Kiln dried sand is the stuff you need for filling - it's really fine and falls down all the way into the gaps. Get this from a builders merchants and brush in while dry.

With my drive I kind of get in the habit of picking at weeds when ever I see them and try to keep it under control that way - they are persistent and I don't think you'll ever really win.

cone

471 posts

264 months

Thursday 11th August 2005
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just to pinch JON s thead , (sorry), but we re looking at blocking our drive at the mo , poss with granite cobbles or this pressed concrete stuff , any feed back on either would help. concrete looks good but looks very permanent?

Eric Mc

125,639 posts

294 months

Thursday 11th August 2005
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We looked at pressed concrete but in the end went with traditional block paving. We felt the real thing looked best. There wasn't a huge difference in price bewteen the pressed concrete and block paving.

aldi

9,282 posts

266 months

Thursday 11th August 2005
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Get one of those huge tubs of bulk weedkiller, about £10 should get you 250sq.M worth of stuff. Don't faff about with little pathclear guns, those are for tiny areas where you're worried about the other plants on either side IMO. Cover the entire area with it from a watering can according to the instructions.

Don't just do the currently weedy bits. They'l only come up somewhere else next week if you treat it a bit at a time.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

276 months

Thursday 11th August 2005
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cover entire area with weedkiller (roundup)

jetwash (will remove weeds and clean blocks) but you will also remove some sand

brush silica sand into the gaps (very fine dry sand used especially for the purpose)

apply sealer

cnjohnson_uk

9,586 posts

272 months

Thursday 11th August 2005
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I am a Marshalls Approved Driveway Contractor and unfortunately block paved driveways are never immaculate after a couple of years (my own looks dreadful at the moment).

You could pressure wash the surface gently and remove all of the moss and general crud that has built up. The bigger weeds need pulling out by hand. The remaining gaps if the driveway has been laid properly should not be too large. You then as has already been suggested sweep in some new kiln dried sand. You might need to do this a couple of times because the sand will immediately filter down to the sub base.

Once complete you will need to do regular maintenance with weedkiller to keep on top of the problem - again as suggested by fellow pher's.

I that doesnt work you could consider lifting the lot and relaying with a weedproof membrane under the blocks.

Pickled Piper

6,452 posts

264 months

Thursday 11th August 2005
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We had a man come round with a large pressure washer type machine that gently scrubbed the whole diveway. Apparently, the water he used had weedkiller in it. This got it looking clean and new, he then brushed fresh sand into all of it. Cost about £80 all in for a big drive.

Two years later looks like it needs the treatment again.

pp

rsvmilly

11,288 posts

270 months

Thursday 11th August 2005
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cnjohnson_uk said:
I that doesnt work you could consider lifting the lot and relaying with a weedproof membrane under the blocks.

When you consider you can lay terram for about £1/m² - to save a lifetime of weeding - it is awfully cheap of these block laying companies to skimp on it, isn't it?

cone

471 posts

264 months

Thursday 11th August 2005
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rsvmilly said:

cnjohnson_uk said:
I that doesnt work you could consider lifting the lot and relaying with a weedproof membrane under the blocks.


When you consider you can lay terram for about £1/m² - to save a lifetime of weeding - it is awfully cheap of these block laying companies to skimp on it, isn't it?

surely the weeds are growing in the sand in the gaps , not the sub base .

B17NNS

18,506 posts

276 months

Thursday 11th August 2005
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cone said:
surely the weeds are growing in the sand in the gaps , not the sub base .


rsvmilly

11,288 posts

270 months

Thursday 11th August 2005
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B17NNS said:

cone said:
surely the weeds are growing in the sand in the gaps , not the sub base .



If that was the case then why don't you see plants growing through block-paved estate roads?

And what would the weeds feed upon in sand?

They grow through the sub base.

To see just how effective some plants are at growing through pavings, read up on Japanese Knotweed

www.cabi-bioscience.org/html/japanese_knotweed_alliance.htm

cone

471 posts

264 months

Thursday 11th August 2005
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you ll have to check depth of root then . yes nasty kin weeds will come up , the rest feed on the minerals that wash into the sand by the rain , is potting compost not sand based ?