Government want to sell ID card information...
Government want to sell ID card information...
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groomi

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9,331 posts

272 months

Sunday 26th June 2005
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Not content with taxing us to the hilt and crushing our civil rights one-by-one, the Goverment has been reported today as intending to sell our personal information, from the ID card scheme, to the highest bidder.

1) They intend to force us to register for these draconian cards.

2) They expect us to PAY for the privelidge of having our privacy intruded.

3) They intend to MAKE MONEY by ignoring the Data Protection Act and selling our details to the highest bidder.

Which will result, no doubt, in even more junk mail, telephone sales etc. etc. coming our way.

At what point did somebody who is appointed to represent OUR interests, think that this was a good/fair/appropriate idea?

If this information is supposed to be stored for matters of security, then surely selling it on actually REDUCES security?

Do they honestly beleive that whoever buys this information is not going to sell it on themselves?

I cannot believe that the Government are even considering this, the world hass gone mad.

I just don't know what to do anymore...

groomi

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9,331 posts

272 months

Sunday 26th June 2005
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T'was on BBC TV news this morning - they were reading it from one of the papers.

I'd like to not worry and believe that it isn't likely to happen, but in light of all the other rediculous proposals that keep being put forward, some of them will inevitably get through the new.

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Sunday 26th June 2005
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Must be true then.

Which paper?
What reporter?
Where did the reporter get his information from?
Has he had independent confirmation froma second source?

Or is this a bit of scaremongering by "The Mail" or "Express"?

Trust me, I have no desire to see these ID cards and schemes implemented - but let's fight on the basis of the genuine concerns about them rather than making up scare stories.

simpo two

92,708 posts

294 months

Sunday 26th June 2005
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Apart from the global warming/medical issues, most scare stories about Govt policy turn out to be true, or even an underestimate. You cannot be too cynical about this lot.

groomi

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9,331 posts

272 months

Sunday 26th June 2005
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simpo two said:
Apart from the global warming/medical issues, most scare stories about Govt policy turn out to be true, or even an underestimate. You cannot be too cynical about this lot.


Agreed.

spaximus

4,365 posts

282 months

Sunday 26th June 2005
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It is in the independant. The reason allegedly is the spiraling cost, according to the london school of economics the final cost will exceed £200 per card to the population, and almost triple even the goverments worst cost prediction. The answer is to sell the information at £750 a pop to companies.
So much for data protection, I guess my doctor would like to sell my medical record, and every other person who has information on me already to whoever. I know the "if you have nothing to hide brigade" will say so what, but if you are able to buy my information how hard will it be to find a dishonest use for it?

groomi

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9,331 posts

272 months

Sunday 26th June 2005
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A link t today's article from the Independent on Sunday.

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=649780

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Sunday 26th June 2005
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Fair enough.

How would they get around Data Protection Act limitations then?

Are they selling current information they have on us (they have quite a lot already)?

Twincam16

27,647 posts

287 months

Sunday 26th June 2005
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True story, and as a result the Tories have now changed their mind over ID cards.

It's just as I expected TBH - the government are seeking any way they can make money for the populace, and where's it going? Probably to cover their enormous budget deficit they've been covering up with borrowing for the past few years.

wedg1e

27,035 posts

294 months

Sunday 26th June 2005
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Eric Mc said:


How would they get around Data Protection Act limitations then?



Change the Act...?

groomi

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9,331 posts

272 months

Sunday 26th June 2005
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Eric Mc said:
How would they get around Data Protection Act limitations then?



In the same way as they did with the fox hunting ban. Bring in some legislation which allows them to do whatever they want regardless of any existing laws/pocedures/legislation/constitutions/human rights etc. etc.

PS: I'm not advocating fox hunting, just using the example, so let's not get distracted onto that one.

>> Edited by groomi on Sunday 26th June 11:59

Matthew-TMM

4,028 posts

266 months

Sunday 26th June 2005
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Sadly this doesn't surprise me at all. Remember the census?