How about this for a mobile phone option?
Discussion
Having just had another of those irritating "can I speak to mr Cross, pleasing you thanks" calls, I've had a brainstorm.
Mobile phone manufacturers, how about some way of blocking hidden/withheld, or even just a particular area or country code (in this case 0092)? It wouldn't have to be too sophisticated, just filter any number, and if it matches a rule just stop the phone ringing. While we're at it, the same thing could be applied to sms mms or whatever.
If anybody comes up with a phone that can do this, I'll be the first in the queue for it.
Phil
Ps If I find out if any of the companies I deal with feel it necessary to give my number to some call center half a world away, when it's supposed to be private, I will drop them like a hot brick. Banks/insurance/mobile phone company, you have been warned !
Mobile phone manufacturers, how about some way of blocking hidden/withheld, or even just a particular area or country code (in this case 0092)? It wouldn't have to be too sophisticated, just filter any number, and if it matches a rule just stop the phone ringing. While we're at it, the same thing could be applied to sms mms or whatever.
If anybody comes up with a phone that can do this, I'll be the first in the queue for it.
Phil
Ps If I find out if any of the companies I deal with feel it necessary to give my number to some call center half a world away, when it's supposed to be private, I will drop them like a hot brick. Banks/insurance/mobile phone company, you have been warned !
i want cheaper international roaming calls
why can't a company, say T-mobile or vodafone, make sure your phone selects t-mobile or vodafone in each country instead of randomly picking operators every five minutes, then give you cheaper prices? surely each country's network isn't totally a seperate company
not so much of an issue in the uk maybe but i'm in holland every week and the uk every couple of weeks using my phone on a german t-mobile contract
why can't a company, say T-mobile or vodafone, make sure your phone selects t-mobile or vodafone in each country instead of randomly picking operators every five minutes, then give you cheaper prices? surely each country's network isn't totally a seperate company
not so much of an issue in the uk maybe but i'm in holland every week and the uk every couple of weeks using my phone on a german t-mobile contract
ARH said:
www.tpsonline.org.uk/tps/ this will fix it all.
Not for international calls, besides I'm already signed up.
What I'm on about is a mobile phone that you can set the filters on, not someone being told not to call your number. That way, we get peace and quiet, and they can run up their phone bills to their hearts content. Nokias already have the function to ban international calls when abroad etc etc, just not the ability to block them coming in from abroad, when your on your home network.
Update: they rang back. Some telesales drone purporting to be from this tv station Left click he wanted a fax number....yeah right !!. The first call he used my correct name, second call a different name. Like I said, if I find out who's given my number out, there will be hell to pay !
Phil
chris.mapey said:
Can do - most Sony Ericsson phones have a call allowance list -use the phone book for that - and Bob's your Mother's brother.
If the number calling is not in the phone book, then they get dievrted to Voicemail, all othar calls come to you.
Happy to help,
Chris
Looks like my next phone will be one of these then. Shame for me, as I really like my nokias.
hugoagogo said:
i want cheaper international roaming calls
why can't a company, say T-mobile or vodafone, make sure your phone selects t-mobile or vodafone in each country instead of randomly picking operators every five minutes, then give you cheaper prices? surely each country's network isn't totally a seperate company
not so much of an issue in the uk maybe but i'm in holland every week and the uk every couple of weeks using my phone on a german t-mobile contract
Nokia handsets allow you to specify the operator you want
(Settings -> Phone Settings -> Network Selection). Switch it to manual and it'll search for all available networks and give you a list to choose from. It'll then stick to that network until you pick another or set it back to Auto.
Used to do this with Orange all the time, i.e. check their website for the cheapest network at your detination and select it manually on arrival. Orange have, however, "helpfully" rolled up all international roaming into one tarrif so there's no point any more as it costs the same no matter which network you use. Gits.
hugoagogo said:
i want cheaper international roaming calls
why can't a company, say T-mobile or vodafone, make sure your phone selects t-mobile or vodafone in each country instead of randomly picking operators every five minutes, then give you cheaper prices? surely each country's network isn't totally a seperate company
not so much of an issue in the uk maybe but i'm in holland every week and the uk every couple of weeks using my phone on a german t-mobile contract
GSM operators still do not have a way of controlling the network you roam onto - when you fly into schiphol, and turn your mobile on, the phone trys a number of things - in this order
1. Try and register with last network it was connected to..
2. Try and connect to your home network
3. Look at the HPLMN listing to see if there are any preferences set
4.Go for the operator with the strongest signal..
You guessed - it invariably ends up at '4' - that is why there are more mobile masts at airports that you can shake a stick etc..
The only way is to manually set the roamec network, when you arrive at Schiphol to T Mobile - just make sure when you leave the holland to set to automatic network selection - otherwise you will not get a signal.
There are some fancy applications that have been developed to select the right roaming networks - however the operators have been very slow to adopt these. Handsets are also becomeing a little more intelligent in this area. But the for timebeing, it is down to you to select manually...
hugoagogo said:
i want cheaper international roaming calls
why can't a company, say T-mobile or vodafone, make sure your phone selects t-mobile or vodafone in each country instead of randomly picking operators every five minutes, then give you cheaper prices? surely each country's network isn't totally a seperate company
not so much of an issue in the uk maybe but i'm in holland every week and the uk every couple of weeks using my phone on a german t-mobile contract
Sounds like you need:
www.uk2abroad.com/
Ben
CLI - that old chestnut. Two types - Network and Presentation. Network is funnily enough what the Networks use for identifying who they should bill for terminating a call on their network...
Presentation - is exactly that - the CLI that is presented on your handset.
GSM to GSM international or domestic - if it is standard calling, then CLI can be presented on the receiving parties handset.
PSTN to GSM - Domestic - CLI will be presented.
PSTN to GSM - International inbound - CLI not always presented, as signalling between UK and Europe not always the same...
Puts Geek (or is that Nerd) hat back on shelf.
Presentation - is exactly that - the CLI that is presented on your handset.
GSM to GSM international or domestic - if it is standard calling, then CLI can be presented on the receiving parties handset.
PSTN to GSM - Domestic - CLI will be presented.
PSTN to GSM - International inbound - CLI not always presented, as signalling between UK and Europe not always the same...
Puts Geek (or is that Nerd) hat back on shelf.
pdV6 said:
Not really - who's paying over the odds? Oh, that would be you/us! Like they care enough to cut your bill...
at the moment, my bill is t-mobile DE and charges randomly spread over KPN, telfort, vodaphone NL and t-mobile NL in holland and orange, vodafone UK, o2 and T-mobile UK in britain
t-mobile could have all of it instead of giving a share to all those others, if they got their act together, so they are missing out
>> Edited by hugoagogo on Tuesday 21st June 11:54
While we are on the subject I am being inundated with people asking me to take my next contract with them. My Orange contract expired last month and since then I keep getting the 'we have a wonderful deal for you' calls. 
I want to know how they know when my contract expired and who gave them my number.
Surely that is between me and Orange, not me and the whole world!
B****y mobile phones I hate them. Unfortunately, all the idiots buying new ones pays my wages!
Elizabeth
I want to know how they know when my contract expired and who gave them my number.
Surely that is between me and Orange, not me and the whole world!
B****y mobile phones I hate them. Unfortunately, all the idiots buying new ones pays my wages!
Elizabeth
Ding said:
Surely that is between me and Orange, not me and the whole world!
Indeed.
I've had the same Orange number for many years and the only time I started getting junk calls & texts was when I moved it from contract to PAYG. I guess that was Orange's slap in the face to me for refusing to pay for unused airtime...
Seem to have happened on an excellent way of getting rid of the next contract jobbies.
I used to tell them that I was on a works mobile, then they would start the do you have a wife/kids spiel, and I would have to hang up on them.
The last three lots, I simply tell them that Nokia give me every new handset as a test device, and they disappear of their own volition. Funnily enough, they rarely take the time to say thankyou these days
I used to tell them that I was on a works mobile, then they would start the do you have a wife/kids spiel, and I would have to hang up on them.
The last three lots, I simply tell them that Nokia give me every new handset as a test device, and they disappear of their own volition. Funnily enough, they rarely take the time to say thankyou these days
hugoagogo said:
Not really - who's paying over the odds? Oh, that would be you/us! Like they care enough to cut your bill...
at the moment, my bill is t-mobile DE and charges randomly spread over KPN, telfort, vodaphone NL and t-mobile NL in holland and orange, vodafone UK, o2 and T-mobile UK in britain
t-mobile could have all of it instead of giving a share to all those others, if they got their act together, so they are missing out
>> Edited by hugoagogo on Tuesday 21st June 11:54
You've got it in one - the last thing T Mobile wants to do is make outpayments to its competitors. However there is not a lot they can do about it. For them to control which network you roam onto is a complicated process.
As well as that, DG COMP 13 (the competition commission in Brussels) would want to have a say in this. Their view is the consumer must have a choice as to which network they roam onto (even though on paper, in your case T Mobile is the obvious one).
So again, it is down to the punter to manually select which roamed network to roam onto. There are solutions - but the operators, for a number of reasons, are choosing not to adopt them.
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