Well Hello!!!! .........and any jewell experts?
Well Hello!!!! .........and any jewell experts?
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lemmonie

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6,314 posts

284 months

Tuesday 14th June 2005
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Hi everyone!!
Specially to Flasher, Mrs Fish, Inncorrigable and the rest of the "gang"
:D


How is everyone? whats the goss? etc etc
Is there a baby Fish?


And for the boring bit.....

Can anyone confirm or deny that an 18ct white gold ring is EXACTLY the same quality from Earnest Jones say as one from argos?

Ta!!

Incorrigible

13,668 posts

290 months

Tuesday 14th June 2005
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Well hello there

Same shit, different day here

Can't answer anything do do with jewelry as I pawned all my family's when I bought the racing car

Mwah

Ben

My racing's going pretty well, second in the champs ATM

vixpy1

42,699 posts

293 months

Tuesday 14th June 2005
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Really not the best person to ask about Jewlrey

vetteheadracer

8,273 posts

282 months

Tuesday 14th June 2005
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:Vixpy1 said:
Really not the best person to ask about Jewlrey
Especially as you can't spell it!

>> Edited by vetteheadracer on Tuesday 14th June 12:54

lotuslad

5,253 posts

283 months

Tuesday 14th June 2005
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vixpy1 said:
Really not the best person to ask about Jewlrey


Especially not the spelling thereof

lemmonie

Original Poster:

6,314 posts

284 months

Tuesday 14th June 2005
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Ooh get you 2nd in the champ!!!!!


Well done!!!

I think Steve is currently 2nd in class too!

How is the house coming along?

lotuslad

5,253 posts

283 months

Tuesday 14th June 2005
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vixpy1 said:
I'm having an argument in Bonham's at the mo - can you confirm that the crystal in Lalique vases is the same grade as used in my winged horse?

lemmonie

Original Poster:

6,314 posts

284 months

Tuesday 14th June 2005
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Ahh, i am sorry for my spelling.

Will you guys ever forgive me? pwetty please?



I didnt mean JUST the inner circle but anyone who i may have spoken to in the past!

lotuslad

5,253 posts

283 months

Tuesday 14th June 2005
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anonymous said:
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Are you hoping to penetrate the intimate ring?

alexkp

16,484 posts

273 months

Tuesday 14th June 2005
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18k is 18k - so same quality - that is the point.

It is an international measurement of the gold content, so has to be consistent by law.

Diamonds though are a totally different matter - value varies massively according to quality.

vixpy1

42,699 posts

293 months

Tuesday 14th June 2005
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anonymous said:
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Well, there is the main ring.. and the backroom ring...

bga

8,134 posts

280 months

Tuesday 14th June 2005
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gold should be pretty much identical but the quality of the rhodium plating may be different. Thinner plate/lower quality could mean it wears through quicker.

stackmonkey

5,084 posts

278 months

Tuesday 14th June 2005
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Ask srebbe64, he seems to have had some recent experience of jewellery.

Fatboy

8,267 posts

301 months

Tuesday 14th June 2005
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anonymous said:
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Not exactly - the quantity of gold in the alloy will be the same, but the quality of the workmanship will be very different, and the alloying may not even be as good (i.e. the cheaper ring will not be as hard wearing)

alexkp

16,484 posts

273 months

Tuesday 14th June 2005
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Fatboy said:

anonymous said:
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Not exactly - the quantity of gold in the alloy will be the same, but the quality of the workmanship will be very different, and the alloying may not even be as good (i.e. the cheaper ring will not be as hard wearing)


Ahh - now workmanship is a different matter, I agree. But the gold is the same.

Of course there are different hues of gold also, and there can be some variation accordingly as to rarity - ie. Yellow Gold, Pink Gold, White Gold, Red Gold.

Fatboy

8,267 posts

301 months

Tuesday 14th June 2005
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anonymous said:
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My comment about what the gold was alloyed with should have been more of a question - I do know that modern 18ct is in fact harder wearing than the 18ct of say 20 years ago, due to improvements in alloying technology, and I was wondering if there might be a further opportunity to cut costs there? Or would it in fact be more trouble than it's worth to get an unusual grade of gold specifically for cheapy jewellery?

bga

8,134 posts

280 months

Tuesday 14th June 2005
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Fatboy said:

anonymous said:
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My comment about what the gold was alloyed with should have been more of a question - I do know that modern 18ct is in fact harder wearing than the 18ct of say 20 years ago, due to improvements in alloying technology, and I was wondering if there might be a further opportunity to cut costs there? Or would it in fact be more trouble than it's worth to get an unusual grade of gold specifically for cheapy jewellery?


it should be roughly the same. 18 ct white gold is around 75% gold, 2% copper, 5% zinc & the rest nickle to make it more grey so it can be plated more easily. The strength will be dependent on the size & shape of the ring than the minor differences in alloy composition. The durability of finish will be down to the quality of the rhodium plating.

alexkp

16,484 posts

273 months

Tuesday 14th June 2005
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Fatboy said:

anonymous said:
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My comment about what the gold was alloyed with should have been more of a question - I do know that modern 18ct is in fact harder wearing than the 18ct of say 20 years ago, due to improvements in alloying technology, and I was wondering if there might be a further opportunity to cut costs there? Or would it in fact be more trouble than it's worth to get an unusual grade of gold specifically for cheapy jewellery?


That's an interesting question - and I fear my knowledge of precious metals has run out here...lol.

I've always tended to take the view that gold is gold is gold pretty much. That's why "old" gold, as in rings or jewellery is rarely worth more than "modern" gold, and oftentimes less. It is often just melted down and reused.

Precious stones are different of course, with many factors affecting value, such as weight, cut, colour, lustre, clarity, inclusion size and number etc.

wedge girl

4,688 posts

268 months

Tuesday 14th June 2005
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The other thing you may want to consider is the weight, and thickness when making price comparisons.

chim_knee

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286 months

Tuesday 14th June 2005
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wedge girl said:
The other thing you may want to consider is the length and thickness when making comparisons.