Capital Gains Question
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tinman0

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18,231 posts

269 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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Held some shares in a company for several years. Now worth several grand and selling them in the next couple of weeks to the majority shareholder.

How much is the Capital Gains tax?

(5 shares owned for 7 years and originally bought for £1 each)

southpaw

635 posts

258 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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Quite a lot for a few grands worth. Hold on, I'm sure I have it written down somewhere here....

vixpy1

42,699 posts

293 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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Your personal allowance is roughly 7500 profit, then its 40%, but you must allow for indexation as well.

southpaw

635 posts

258 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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The first £8,200 of an individual's net gains realised during the tax year is free of CGT. The excess is taxed as if it were the top slice of income, at the rates that apply to savings income, namely 10% on the first £2,020, 20% on the next £29,380 and 40% on the balance.

Jez W

31 posts

266 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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Now got taper relief...rather than indexation. you need to take into account any other capital gains you have in the year.

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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You may even have a combination of Indexation AND Taper Relief - depending on how long ago you first acquired the shares.

The calculation of CGT on share disposals can sometimes be quite tricky. I'd try and get a CGT specialist to help before you submit anything on a self assessment tax return.

B16 RFF

883 posts

296 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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Whilst we're on the subject, I've got approx 1000 Scottish Power shares. They have announced that they will be returning approx $4.5 BILLION to shareholders following the sale of Pacificorp. Any idea how much I can expect? And what's the tax situation.
Enough for a Sagaris , or enough for a model of a Sagaris?

Thanks,

Paul.

JonRB

80,029 posts

301 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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B16 RFF said:
Enough for a Sagaris , or enough for a model of a Sagaris?

danww

6,914 posts

259 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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B16 RFF said:
Whilst we're on the subject, I've got approx 1000 Scottish Power shares. They have announced that they will be returning approx $4.5 BILLION to shareholders following the sale of Pacificorp. Any idea how much I can expect? And what's the tax situation.
Enough for a Sagaris , or enough for a model of a Sagaris?

Thanks,

Paul.


Well based purely on an internet search an no actual knowledge whatsoever ... Scottish Power have 1,848 million shares on issue, so if the 4.5Bn is split equally across those then you ought to get about $24 per share which would be ... 24,000 USD ... so a good bit of a Sagaris but not quite a whole one.

However since their total market capitalisation is "only" 8.8Bn GBP that seems like a lot to dish out.

vixpy1

42,699 posts

293 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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danww said:

B16 RFF said:
Whilst we're on the subject, I've got approx 1000 Scottish Power shares. They have announced that they will be returning approx $4.5 BILLION to shareholders following the sale of Pacificorp. Any idea how much I can expect? And what's the tax situation.
Enough for a Sagaris , or enough for a model of a Sagaris?

Thanks,

Paul.



Well based purely on an internet search an no actual knowledge whatsoever ... Scottish Power have 1,848 million shares on issue, so if the 4.5Bn is split equally across those then you ought to get about $24 per share which would be ... 24,000 USD ... so a good bit of a Sagaris but not quite a whole one.

However since their total market capitalisation is "only" 8.8Bn GBP that seems like a lot to dish out.


Errr.. i make that $2.4 per share.

vixpy1

42,699 posts

293 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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B16 RFF said:
And what's the tax situation.


It will be returned as dividends i suspect.

danww

6,914 posts

259 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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vixpy1 said:

danww said:


B16 RFF said:
Whilst we're on the subject, I've got approx 1000 Scottish Power shares. They have announced that they will be returning approx $4.5 BILLION to shareholders following the sale of Pacificorp. Any idea how much I can expect? And what's the tax situation.
Enough for a Sagaris , or enough for a model of a Sagaris?

Thanks,

Paul.




Well based purely on an internet search an no actual knowledge whatsoever ... Scottish Power have 1,848 million shares on issue, so if the 4.5Bn is split equally across those then you ought to get about $24 per share which would be ... 24,000 USD ... so a good bit of a Sagaris but not quite a whole one.

However since their total market capitalisation is "only" 8.8Bn GBP that seems like a lot to dish out.



Errr.. i make that $2.4 per share.


Quite right - decimal point f**k up. So 2,400 USD, er, how much is a model Sagaris?

vixpy1

42,699 posts

293 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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danww said:


Quite right - decimal point f**k up. So 2,400 USD, er, how much is a model Sagaris?


Betcha work in the city.... in fact, you're my stockbroker in disguise i reckon, he always inflates figures as well

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Saturday 11th June 2005
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If you receive the cash as an extra-large dividend, you may be surprised to learn that you will have NO tax liability on the dividend value UNLESS YOU ARE A HIGHER RATE TAX PAYER. If you DO pay tax at 40%, you might also be surprised to learn that the maximum rate of tax you will pay on the dividend itself will be 32.5% - and then only on that portion of the dividend that falls into the higher rate band.

catso

16,404 posts

296 months

Saturday 11th June 2005
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B16 RFF said:
Enough for a Sagaris , or enough for a model of a Sagaris?

Thanks,

Paul.


How good are you with 'Airfix' kits?

B16 RFF

883 posts

296 months

Saturday 11th June 2005
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Oh well, back to the lottery.
A windfall of $2400 will be very nice thank you.
Thanks guys.

Paul.