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billb

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3,198 posts

294 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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if i hire a van to take loads of rubbish to the tip will i be treated as trade and have to pay to dump the stuff? if so how much approx?

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hugoagogo

23,437 posts

262 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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you shouldn't be

depends what it is, builder's waste - you might get charged

scared but happy

24,147 posts

258 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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Or loads of computer parts (seventeen 'effing quid it cost me ).

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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All vans and trailers at our tip (Peterborough) Now need a licence. Unsurprisingly, there's as much rubbish outside the tip as there is in it since they changed the rules.

Sometimes the council's stupidity just beggars belief.

z1000

649 posts

267 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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It probably varies from authority to authority , but in Sutton if you have a bill to prove you're a ratepayer it's not a problem . They do however keep a record of the weight , and restrict you to a tonne (i think) per year.

chrisgr31

14,275 posts

284 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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At Crowborough (east sussex) you can take vans or whatever but trade waste is not permitted.

They have an ANPR system and if the same vehicle goes regularly then the owner will get a letter, and presumably a bill!

It can also depend on what the waste is, if it is recyclable it could be welcomed with open arms as it helps the stats!

bga

8,134 posts

280 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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Depends where you are, in my borough you can't take vans to some tips but can to others. Where you can tae a van you need to take your council tax bill & ID IIRC. Not sure about charging, I went 2 years ago with a van full of junk from the garden & it was free.

Councils usually have good info on tips etc & the usage restrictions.

jimothy

5,151 posts

266 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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I had an argument with the tip guy once when I was moving house. I put an old bed in the van I'd hired and trundled off to the tip only to be told that I couldn't dump it as a van means trade waste.
I dumped it in the end, after pointing out that if I unloaded the bed, left my dad with it, drove the van back home, got a car, drove back and put the bed in it, then he'd letme dump it...

pdV6

16,442 posts

290 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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Can depend on the authority and/or the jobsworth-ness of the staff.

When clearing my mother-in-law's house for sale, we hired a van to clear out the garage, loft etc.

The local tip were initially ok with it for a couple of loads (had the required resident's pass) but on the 3rd trip got shirty and refused to allow us to dump the stuff, despite them crawling through the back of the van and checking it was household waste.

So off we go to my brother-in-law's local tip instead, which has the car=public, van=trade mentality. As it was getting late and we were getting fed up we ended up paying the £17 or whatever it was to use the trade tip.

Does make you wonder what the inflated council tax bills actually pay for...

rooster

2,241 posts

266 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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BliarOut said:
All vans and trailers at our tip (Peterborough) Now need a licence. Unsurprisingly, there's as much rubbish outside the tip as there is in it since they changed the rules.

Sometimes the council's stupidity just beggars belief.

ah but it isn't the council! they have to abide by the law; Environmental Protection Act of 1990 business waste is deemed different from household waste, householders pay thru council tax, hence free entry to the sites, while businesses pay as they produce.

simpo two

92,708 posts

294 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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Tips round here have a height restriction. If you turn up in a truck expect to get charged; cram it into an estate or MPV and you'll get in free.

vixpy1

42,699 posts

293 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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rooster said:

householders pay thru council tax, hence free entry to the sites, while businesses pay as they produce.


Ah, thats why i pay three times as much Business rates per year as council tax..

Rude Girl

6,937 posts

288 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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Our local tip barred vans altogether, but after many complaints, will now let them in on Tuesdays and on Saturday mornings only. There are also some odd rules about how many loads you can take of 'home improvement waste'. Don't ask me... rules for rules sake sometimes I think.

Ahonen

5,032 posts

308 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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When we cleared out a friend's house in Northampton we had to take a van and an estate car to the local tip. The van was parked just outside the entrance, while the estate car shuttled in and out around half a dozen times so that we could abide by the letter of The Rules...

Slightly irritating - especially in the pouring rain.

billb

Original Poster:

3,198 posts

294 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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just checked it out - am in northampton too - basically can only go sat morning in a van up to 1pm which is a pain as want to hire a van for sat and spend all day filling it not just until midday.

www.northamptonshire.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/309AD134-E69A-4241-8460-50038A885A20/0/WasteFlyer_1.pdf

is that test drive a vauxhall thing still going i feel the need to test drive an estate!!

>> Edited by billb on Tuesday 24th May 14:26

Rude Girl

6,937 posts

288 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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billb said:
just checked it out - am in northampton too - basically can only go sat morning in a van up to 1pm which is a pain as want to hire a van for sat and spend all day filling it not just until midday.


Sounds about right - I'm Northants too (see post above)

gibo993

966 posts

294 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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I get grief every time I turn up in my 1961 Landie, what idiot would use that as a trade vehicle, they would go bust, 'cause it takes soo long to get anywhere in it.

maxc

238 posts

258 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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I use my Yank pickup to go to the tip and never any problems - though it helps to give the guys there a few racing stickers every so often.

From what I see (Winchester Council) they are more interested in what you are dumping than how you do it - with obvious exceptions like builders waste. The operators make good money from reselling stuff, so it helps if you have a few things they want.

A mate even dumped over 200 lead/acid commercial batteries at Whiteley tip as the guys wanted to sell them on for the lead.

size13

2,033 posts

286 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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My brother went with his S2 Landrover with it's cab hardtop on - was refused as it was a pickup.
He wrote to the council to ask for a licence and they said the person who stoppe dhim was astupid arse for doing so.
Took it again with the full length softop on and was let in no problems!

Strange as they'll let Discos in which will carry >twice as much.

Pigeon

18,535 posts

275 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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I don't think "vindictive" is the right word. "Dog in the manger" is the usual phrase. My phrase is a little shorter. Deliberately causing harm to people who have done no harm to you, for no reason other than to laugh at them being pissed off... primary school kids do that.

I have on more than one occasion been asked to fix TVs by people who have got them out of the tip, which were in perfect working order before someone took the back off and cut every single wire. As I sat there soldering all the ends back together I have imagined acting out a historical play with the cutter maniac. He would play Edward II; I, with my soldering iron, would play Queen Isabella.