Anyone been to Rio?
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Fallon

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295 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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I've just booked a short trip there for next year's carnival.

Been reading about the city/carnival on various websites and have just read the Foreign Office advice which suggests I'll be getting mugged as soon as I leave the airport!

Comments/observations much appreciated!

KJR

799 posts

294 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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Fallon,

cannot comment on the current situation but my parents and brother/sister lived in Rio in the early/mid eights. I was out there for a couple of holidays.

At sixteen it was an eye opener to see the police on the streets with machine guns and standing at the side of the road with the stinger devices used to put holes in tyres. Saw my first real dead body lying in the street.

At night, no one stopped for red lights incase they were mugged and we were advised not to wear flashy watches/jewelery(sp).

Having said that they never had any real problems other than when my father was on a municiple bus which was held up. Later found out it was a fairly regular event.

My parents were quite happy to go off on a holiday to the US for a couple of weeks leaving me(18) and my brother(15) to fend for our selves, me driving the "company car" the brazilian version of the Vauxhall Chevette.

If I were you I would not worry, enjoy your holiday.

KJR

Plotloss

67,280 posts

299 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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Keep yourself to yourself and dont wear very flashy jewellery.

Basic travelling common sense should see you clear.

Its a crazy town. Enjoy it.

groucho

12,134 posts

275 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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Plotloss said:
Keep yourself to yourself and dont wear very flashy jewellery.

Basic travelling common sense should see you clear.

Its a crazy town. Enjoy it.


Good advice from plotloss. I was there in 97 but not at carnival time. Some places I went looked a bit dodgy, with the staring and the like. I believe it's more dangerous at carnival time.
It seemed fine and friendly along the copacabana.

Fallon

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295 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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thanks for the comments chaps.

Incidentally, is Copacabana still one of the better areas to stay? Anyth thoughts on Ipanema also?

any thoughts again much appreciated.

I'll be meeting a friend out there who'll be halfway through a six-month circuit of south america so I won't be completely alone, but some of the things I've read about Rio did have me slightly worried.

Still, probably no more dangerous than any surburban town centre on any given Friday/Saturday night!

groucho

12,134 posts

275 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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Have you seen the waterfalls at Foz? spectacular. Also if you like nature, a visit to the Pantanal is a must, or even a trip through it.

lady topaz

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283 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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I was in Forteleza in the NE a few years back and even my Brazilian hosts warned me not to leave my hotel in Rio when I got there unless I left all jewellery, cameras etc in my room.
Needless to say I got drunk, ignored any advice and had a great time. I did stick to the Copacabana and Ipanema (sp) beach areas though.
I would say, yes it can be very dodgy. Friends of mine were mugged, but take sensible precautions, ie not flashing gold or a full wallet. Keep in a group if poss. Do not go off with any ladies,too many are very good looking guys. And do not go off wandering away from the tourist trail.
Having said that I thought the place was fantastic, and the people I met were great.
Just take care and have a good time.

Tony (Lady T's ) butler


Whoops, just looked at your profile and you are a lady so ignore my lady boy comments. Sorry. Now you know why I am just the Butler.

>> Edited by lady topaz on Thursday 7th April 17:52

mrs fish

30,018 posts

287 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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I don't think she is going to go off with any ladies

BADAPPLE

2,265 posts

283 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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Is there any 5* kinda places there to stay?
This is one place I've always wanted to visit.

groucho

12,134 posts

275 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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lady topaz said:
Do not go off with any ladies,too many are very good looking guys.


obrigado.



Fallon

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Thursday 7th April 2005
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heh heh, no I won't be going off with any ladies but thanks for the advice!

I've read as many reports saying "Rio is terrifying" as I've read saying "it's fabulous, you must go"!

andygo

7,392 posts

284 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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My wife and I went there a few years ago.

Didn't rate it to be quite honest. It was dirty, the flavellas were not nice and we didn't feel very safe. Others in our party ( we were all sales managers on a freebie from Legal and General)were relieved of valuables.

Didn't like kids with no legs on skateboards begging.

Most of the rezzers were horrible.

Anyway, that was mid 90's so it might be a bit better now, but there are better places in the world to go to.

Try Singapore.

groucho

12,134 posts

275 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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andygo said:
the flavellas were not nice


Bit of an understatement there. I would stay well clear of the flavellas.

oyster

13,727 posts

277 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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andygo said:
My wife and I went there a few years ago.

Didn't rate it to be quite honest. It was dirty, the flavellas were not nice and we didn't feel very safe. Others in our party ( we were all sales managers on a freebie from Legal and General)were relieved of valuables.

Didn't like kids with no legs on skateboards begging.

Most of the rezzers were horrible.

Anyway, that was mid 90's so it might be a bit better now, but there are better places in the world to go to.

Try Singapore.



Sorry mate but Singapore doesn't have amazing women on the beach with bikinis so small, that your eyes pop out of your head every few seconds!

I've been mugged in Rio.... so what..... people get mugged in all cities in the world.

FAVELAS are not nice, but then it's a 3rd world country. Unfortunately for your visit they didn't build new houses for them all just so you could pretend you were in a rich country.

GasBlaster

27,580 posts

308 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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Hi

Parents lived in Rio for a while, also I have spent quite some time there on business. Beautiful place. Problem is that the mega rich and the destitute people are squashed close together between mountains and sea. The dangerous parts and the safe parts are also very close together. Sometimes you hear gunfire at night and see a few dead bodies in the morning near the favelas after a gang turf war. If you wander into the wrong area, you could be in trouble. Generally take v little cash and no watch or jewellery on the street. Take a 'false wallet' with some cash and old, expired credit cards to hand over if necessary. Uncle was relieved of his watch on Copacabana beach, it happens. Colleague had a gun stuck through his window in traffic jam and had to hand over his fake rolex (actually in Sao Paulo, but similar). They were only after a quick few bucks, but must have been a bit scary. Do not under any circumstances venture into a favela (shanty town)as that is where the local bad guys hang out. Ipanema is a nice safe neighbourhood, much more upmarket than Copacabana. Nicer beach too. I wandered about by myself in the city, much to consternation of local colleagues who thought I was mad. Most of the city within a block of the beach is OK. If you carry yourself with a bit of confidence you should be OK. Act like a victim and you will be more vulnerable. Never been there for Carnival, but parents have and actually took part in it, costumes and everything, no problems. Spectacular city, don't miss Garota de Ipanema bar, cable car up Sugar Loaf and spot the miniature monkeys in the trees on cliff path along base of Sugar Loaf. Don't expect to queque for anything, Brazilians don't understand the concept. Pushing in everywhere is part of the local culture. The food is wonderful and the Caipirinha cocktails are delicious and deadly. Have fun!

groucho

12,134 posts

275 months

Friday 8th April 2005
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Yeah, the food was great. I remember they were doing something called buffet libre (sp), where you pile everything on your plate and you pay according to it's weight.
Got to recommend the cable car up Sugar Loaf Mountain also.

fallon

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295 months

Wednesday 6th July 2005
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Just resurrecting this thread as I've got to sort my life out and get my hotel booked in Rio for carnival next year.

I'm trying to decide between staying in Ipanema or finding a hotel farther inland.

A pal of mine is doing a six-month circuit of South America and will be in Rio for carnival too. He's staying at a hotel that, I believe, is in the financial district (centro 530 for anyone who knows Rio well) - it's near the cathedral?

I'm visiting Rio with my sister and our plan is to hook up with my pal and his tour group, but my first concern is being in an area that's relatively safe for two women travelling alone.

I suspect Ipanema will be the best option, but once again, any comments gratefully received and hopefully I'll get the hotel booking nailed today!

Thanks!

ardoyne

53 posts

286 months

Wednesday 6th July 2005
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Fallon,

A bit late in seeing this, however, I lived in Rio for three years recently and can assure you it is a fantastic place. Yes, you need to be sensible (not take out large sums of money, don't wear expensive jewellery etc), but the same applies anywhere. The key is to relax, blend in as much as possible and not stand out as a tourist.

Do not stay in Centro, you can very quickly get yourself into trouble at night, Ipanema or Leblon are your best bets. Copacabana is OK, but much more of a tourist trap and attracts more petty crime than elsewhere - even on the beach!.

I don't have the time just now to go into great detail, but if you want to drop me a line I will be happy to answer any of your questions. Also, if you want to give me an idea of budget, I'll recommend some hotels.

Bob

parrot of doom

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263 months

Wednesday 6th July 2005
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I've been to Sao Paulo, which I believe is the murder capital of the world

Just use taxis to go everywhere, try not to look lost and you'll be fine

>> Edited by parrot of doom on Wednesday 6th July 17:22

groucho

12,134 posts

275 months

Wednesday 6th July 2005
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parrot of doom said:
I've been to Sao Paulo, which I believe is the murder capital of the world

Just use taxis to go everywhere, try not to look lost and you'll be fine



Make sure you get a proper licensed taxi though, ther are a lot of falsos out there.