Why do they even bother to put this on the news?
Why do they even bother to put this on the news?
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bruciebabe

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1,126 posts

270 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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Gerry Adams tells the IRA they should abandon violence and embrace the peace process.
He's said this many times before and he never means it. If he was Pinnochio his nose would have done several global circumnavigations by now.
And when he tells the IRA something isn't he talking to himself? A sure sign of madness, as if that isn't already self evident from decades of totally unnecessary violence in a democratic country.
The IRA are never going to give up violence. They are just simple gangsters hiding behind nationalism and the business is very very profitable for them. They just took £26.5 million off the Northern Bank for instance.
The only possible end is when the Northern Ireland Catholics get fed up and reject these criminals, till then it will be business as usual.

Jaglover

46,738 posts

264 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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I would agree the IRA are more a criminal syndicate than anything else.

AlexH

2,505 posts

313 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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Whenever you hear something like that from him, you just know he sent an internal memo around to all his Sinn Fein and IRA cronies just before saying 'Ignore the next public statement, its for PR purposes only...'.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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I wouldn't even lump all Northern Ireland Catholics into IRA supporters either. The core support comes from NI Catholic REPUBLICANS who tend to live in the more deprived areas of NI - not quite the same. The actions of the McGuire sisters seems to indicate that there is a growing feeling that the "usefulness" of the IRA to this social group may be waning and I think that Gerry Adams' comments were aimed at that particular demographic.

And don't forget that in these areas the IRA have performed what amounted to "policing" duties for that particular population - maintaining their version of "law and order" in an area where the NI police and other security forces were not at all welcome. Indeed, some of the IRA "policing" methods woulkd garner support from many members of PH - I've heard quite a few suggestions from PH posters for dealing with "scum", "gypsies", "chavs" etc here on the mainland that would tie in very well with IRA operational methods.

By the way, I am no supporter of the IRA, their political aims or their methods but you do have to take into account the political environment in which, up to now, they were able to thrive. Maybe times really are changing.

>> Edited by Eric Mc on Thursday 7th April 08:49

c c

8,048 posts

268 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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They just appear to see it do they.
They managed to win a voice with guns and violence. The only way forward is to ditch the weapons and start talking.

wedg1e

27,034 posts

294 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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Eric Mc said:
And don't forget that in these areas the IRA have performed what amounted to "policing" duties for that particular population - maintaining their version of "law and order" in an area where the NI police and other security forces were not at all welcome. Indeed, some of the IRA "policing" methods woulkd garner support from many members of PH - I've heard quite a few suggestions from PH posters for dealing with "scum", "gypsies", "chavs" etc here on the mainland that would tie in very well with IRA operational methods.



Indeed. I know a guy in Belfast who told me the same thing: he mentioned a case where some guy had forced his attentions on an unwilling lady in a pub.
In the middle of the night, a posse visited the pervs house, held him down and used a Black and Decker to put a holesaw through his kneecaps.
Just so he'd think twice next time...

bor

5,141 posts

284 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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Good post, Eric.

After a ten year cease fire, Adams had come tantalisingly close to delivering full disarmament and eventual disbandment of PIRA. Subsequent events left Sinn Fein, as a political entity, mauled. The brave stand taken by Robert McCartney's sisters has put unprecedented pressure on Sinn Fein, and together with the attack on the Northern Bank (which I suspect Adams either new nothing about, or was powerless to stop)has left Sinn Fein increasingly isolated. As Eric said, the current criticsm of the IRA comes from WITHIN the nationalist community, and points to falling support for this type of gangsterism.

To ensure the continued political growth of Sinn Fein, and to move republicanism to a purely democratic footing, then Adams HAS to persuade the IRA to disarm and disband.

Interesting times.

Zod

35,295 posts

287 months

Thursday 7th April 2005
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It would be funny if it were not so serious: Sinn Fein (President - Gerry Adams) tell the IRA (Member of the Army Council - Gerry Adams) to give up violence. Gerry is still waiting for an answer from Gerry.

>> Edited by Zod on Thursday 7th April 13:09