hung parliament
Discussion
Id like to see the lot of the buggers hang.
I think basically it means that neither party has sufficient majority to pass any legislation which leads to coalitions.
For example if Labour get in with a majority of two ro three and lets assume there are two or three rouge Labour MP's they have no chance of passing any legislation.
They will therefore probably approach the Lib Dems and after they agree to vote with Labour on a few items, Labour will offer to push a few bits of Lib Dem legislation through.
I think basically it means that neither party has sufficient majority to pass any legislation which leads to coalitions.
For example if Labour get in with a majority of two ro three and lets assume there are two or three rouge Labour MP's they have no chance of passing any legislation.
They will therefore probably approach the Lib Dems and after they agree to vote with Labour on a few items, Labour will offer to push a few bits of Lib Dem legislation through.
B17nnS said:
Id like to see the lot of the buggers hang.
I think basically it means that neither party has sufficient majority to pass any legislation which leads to coalitions.
For example if Labour get in with a majority of two ro three and lets assume there are two or three rouge Labour MP's they have no chance of passing any legislation.
They will therefore probably approach the Lib Dems and after they agree to vote with Labour on a few items, Labour will offer to push a few bits of Lib Dem legislation through.
That might be a good thing because except on the question of civil liberties the Lib Dems are indistinguishable from Labour and a coalition might make people see this.
Given the improbability of a Conservative win (the numbers are stacked too heavily against them for now), a hung Parliament is the best we can hope for, I think. It would be a good thing for several reasons: it would, as pointed out above show the true colours of the LibDems and it would be highly unlikely to last, so there would be another election within a year or two and a much better chance of getting rid of Labour.
billb said:
why does it need coalitions surely the point of democracy is that our elected chappies debate it and vote according to what they think not what theyve been told?
or am i being naive...
'Fraid you're being naive.Most of them do what they are told.Just like any other business/organisation people toe the line in the hope of progressing through their chosen careers.It shouldn't be like this but...
Zod said:
Given the improbability of a Conservative win (the numbers are stacked too heavily against them for now), a hung Parliament is the best we can hope for, I think. It would be a good thing for several reasons: it would, as pointed out above show the true colours of the LibDems and it would be highly unlikely to last, so there would be another election within a year or two and a much better chance of getting rid of Labour.
Actually a couple of hung parliaments would result in the probable growth in the election of independant MPs. This of course is the greatest fear of the political parties, in case they have to actually start providing sensible governance rather than the boom to bust gravy train abuse we get now. Next on the agenda is a recession, so Howard has no intention of winning anyway, its all a game to these people.
Zod said:
Given the improbability of a Conservative win (the numbers are stacked too heavily against them for now), a hung Parliament is the best we can hope for, I think. It would be a good thing for several reasons: it would, as pointed out above show the true colours of the LibDems and it would be highly unlikely to last, so there would be another election within a year or two and a much better chance of getting rid of Labour.
Improbable, since when does at most a 5 point difference make it improbable? Depending on which poll you look at, that difference swings either way. I would say it's neck and neck and will go to the wire. Whichever way it goes, the days of Labour being able to push through any legislation they choose are definitely over
einion yrth said:
Whichever way it goes, the days of Labour being able to push through any legislation they choose are definitely over
I do so hope you are right, but I fear you may be being somewhat over optimistic.
Nope, there's no way they'll have a large majority, even if it goes in their favour. If they can't get every one of their MP's to vote, the legislation won't get through, simple.
http://news.bbc.co.uk tells you all about it.
You can even start the swing-o-meter, sounds kinky but it's not
Describes what happens at each stage.
You can even start the swing-o-meter, sounds kinky but it's not
Describes what happens at each stage.
BliarOut said:
BliarOut said:
Whichever way it goes, the days of Labour being able to push through any legislation they choose are definitely over
I do so hope you are right, but I fear you may be being somewhat over optimistic.
Nope, there's no way they'll have a large majority, even if it goes in their favour. If they can't get every one of their MP's to vote, the legislation won't get through, simple.
Ladbrokes has Labour even money to have a majority of 70 or more and 8/11 for a majority of up to 69.
I would be staggered, jump for joy and eat my hat if their majority is less than 50.
As you are so certain Bliarout would you care to enter into a spread wager with me? We'll call the spread 40-50 and say £1 a point with me buying and you selling? I'll win either way because you'll either pay me which will buy me a couple of pints to drown my post election blues in or I'll be thrilled to be paying you.
Gauntlet thrown. Response awaited.
unrepentant said:
einion yrth said:
BliarOut said:
Whichever way it goes, the days of Labour being able to push through any legislation they choose are definitely over
I do so hope you are right, but I fear you may be being somewhat over optimistic.
Nope, there's no way they'll have a large majority, even if it goes in their favour. If they can't get every one of their MP's to vote, the legislation won't get through, simple.
Ladbrokes has Labour even money to have a majority of 70 or more and 8/11 for a majority of up to 69.
I would be staggered, jump for joy and eat my hat if their majority is less than 50.
As you are so certain Bliarout would you care to enter into a spread wager with me? We'll call the spread 40-50 and say £1 a point with me buying and you selling? I'll win either way because you'll either pay me which will buy me a couple of pints to drown my post election blues in or I'll be thrilled to be paying you.
Gauntlet thrown. Response awaited.
Mr Bliarouts gone a bit quiet.
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