Removing Asbestos garage and building a new one
Discussion
I'm looking at buying a house at the minute, and had a look at one yesterday that was almost perfect..except for one thing..... it has a 1950's asbestos garage....
Does anyone know who much it costs to get one of these removed, (and who I contact to get this done properly),
How much it would cost to get a replacement garage built (in the Surrey area).. and whether there would be any planning permission issues ( I assume it already has planning permission for the existing garage... but could I replace it with a large one?)
your thoughts and advise appreciated
>>> Edited by hiasakite on Sunday 30th January 13:41
Does anyone know who much it costs to get one of these removed, (and who I contact to get this done properly),
How much it would cost to get a replacement garage built (in the Surrey area).. and whether there would be any planning permission issues ( I assume it already has planning permission for the existing garage... but could I replace it with a large one?)
your thoughts and advise appreciated
>>> Edited by hiasakite on Sunday 30th January 13:41
Contact local Environmental health department in the town hall and ask them to provide you with a list of approved contrators they will give you a price similar to your telephone number 
No its not that bad actually its the disposal costs that puch it up a bit but you may get a discount cos its domestic. Hope that helps
No its not that bad actually its the disposal costs that puch it up a bit but you may get a discount cos its domestic. Hope that helps
I seem to remember a program on TV where a chap had one removed by a licenced contractor and it cost about 2.5K I am sure the seller of the house has to get the garage removed if you point out that it is Asbestos as it is a danger to everyone who passes it. Remember that it only takes 1 fibre of Asbestos in your lung to kill you. although the last bit could be utter boll*x
Make sure you talk it over with the planning dept. of your council.Even if you are only replacing a garage with the same sort there is no guarantee that the original one had permission.If the one you are building is over a certain size (40 sq mtrs. ?) then you may also need building regulation approval. (I have recently just gone through this very thing)
Corrigated asbestos cement is regarded as low risk.
I don't think you even have to be licenced to take it down, but you will need a specialist waste carrier to take it away.
(I was talking to an asbestos expert a couple of years ago and he said that about asbestos flue. Roofing is the same stuff)
I don't think you even have to be licenced to take it down, but you will need a specialist waste carrier to take it away.
(I was talking to an asbestos expert a couple of years ago and he said that about asbestos flue. Roofing is the same stuff)
gtr-gaz said:
Corrigated asbestos cement is regarded as low risk.
I don't think you even have to be licenced to take it down, but you will need a specialist waste carrier to take it away.
(I was talking to an asbestos expert a couple of years ago and he said that about asbestos flue. Roofing is the same stuff)
My council said I could dismantle the roof and if I double wrapped it in polythene it was ok for me to take it to the nearest council tip with a special asbestos container.
Our council (Leics) lets us take as much as we like to one of their approved sites as long as we get a (free) permit first.
Derby council, next door (nearly) is much less accomodating.
My sister's asbestos garage in Derby will be going to a tip in Leicester.........
Check out your council's website, there might be details there.
Derby council, next door (nearly) is much less accomodating.
My sister's asbestos garage in Derby will be going to a tip in Leicester.........
Check out your council's website, there might be details there.
Asbestos cememt is safe whilst intact.
It's when people work on it, drill it or tamper with it that the dust can be released, which is when you need approved contractors to handle it.
We have asbestos clad warehouses on our site and it's not a problem provided approved contractors do any tasks.
There are many people about who would simply wear a dust mask, flatten it and bury the asbestos, often in concrete. Clearly that's not acceptable practice but it happens very often.
It's when people work on it, drill it or tamper with it that the dust can be released, which is when you need approved contractors to handle it.
We have asbestos clad warehouses on our site and it's not a problem provided approved contractors do any tasks.
There are many people about who would simply wear a dust mask, flatten it and bury the asbestos, often in concrete. Clearly that's not acceptable practice but it happens very often.
I don't know about getting rid of the asbestos. If you want to put something up that doesn't require planning permission, go for one of these modern timber structures (Shed's). Temporary structures don't require planning permission, below a certain volume.
In many respects, a timber outbuilding can be better for your car. (Humidity)
In many respects, a timber outbuilding can be better for your car. (Humidity)
Thanks mate... do you have any links so I can get a feel for how much a timber garage is likely to cost?
(eg something 10ftx20ft or so.. or maybe wider...cars got big doors!)
Edit: just did a google search for one and got loads of hits!!
>> Edited by hiasakite on Sunday 30th January 19:20
(eg something 10ftx20ft or so.. or maybe wider...cars got big doors!)
Edit: just did a google search for one and got loads of hits!!
>> Edited by hiasakite on Sunday 30th January 19:20
I work in sales for a demolition company and it is true that cement asbestos roof panels are viewed as low risk because the particles are contained within the cement. However all asbestos is dangerous if it becomes air borne.
As previously mentioned the danger comes when the sheet is broken, drilled or cut etc. If you remove the sheets yourself, wear disposable overalls with a hood and a good quality face mask. Dispose of both after one use.
Before you remove the fastners spray the area of panel with PVA glue so that any particles that are disturbed will be contained. Then cut the fastner if possible, this prevents levering against the panel and risking a breakage. Also damp down the panels with water once the glue is dry.
Remove the panels without breaking and double bag.
As for disposal, I would contact your local council as they will probably take them at a local centre if you are doing the job your self. If the council will not take them off your hands try a local asbestos removal firm, they will have a waste carriers licence to carry this material and will collect it for a price. They will also supply bags and warning labels for you to use.
We have to pay £30 per bag to dispose of asbestos floor tiles.
Do not confuse your lower risk Cement asbestos with notifiable asbestos though, this must be removed under strict HSE guide lines and does in fact cost a fortune because specialists have to build sealed chambers with air locks etc.
As previously mentioned the danger comes when the sheet is broken, drilled or cut etc. If you remove the sheets yourself, wear disposable overalls with a hood and a good quality face mask. Dispose of both after one use.
Before you remove the fastners spray the area of panel with PVA glue so that any particles that are disturbed will be contained. Then cut the fastner if possible, this prevents levering against the panel and risking a breakage. Also damp down the panels with water once the glue is dry.
Remove the panels without breaking and double bag.
As for disposal, I would contact your local council as they will probably take them at a local centre if you are doing the job your self. If the council will not take them off your hands try a local asbestos removal firm, they will have a waste carriers licence to carry this material and will collect it for a price. They will also supply bags and warning labels for you to use.
We have to pay £30 per bag to dispose of asbestos floor tiles.
Do not confuse your lower risk Cement asbestos with notifiable asbestos though, this must be removed under strict HSE guide lines and does in fact cost a fortune because specialists have to build sealed chambers with air locks etc.
love machine said:
"Free Asbestos garage" some hillbilly will take it off your hands for a shed.
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yehaar!!
I would use the asbestos risk to get the house massively devalued, then once i had moved in, use some of the savings to pay some pikeys to take it away, or bury the stuff under the concrete base of the new garage, I've known the latter to be done round here several times!
Airtrixx, Good advice (coming from one who sells, amongst other things, asbestos surveys).
Simpo two,
Generalising, there are three main types of asbestos, white, brown and blue. There are all exceptionally harmful if you breath in the fibres, although white is regarded as the least harmful and blue as the worst.
One fibre can be enough, but then you may be lucky.
Having an asbestos garage roof isn't generally as bad as it sounds. I'm on my third house and all three have had them. Make sure that it isn't damaged at time of purchase (or between purchase and moving in), and then make sure that you don't damage it in any way.
if you want to make sure, you can paint the outside with the black bitument type paint that's readily available, and the inside can be done with a couple a coats of stabilising solution that would be used for brickwork. under no circumstances should you use any abrasive or dry maerial to wipe it down with as this could release fibres into the air.
Simpo two,
Generalising, there are three main types of asbestos, white, brown and blue. There are all exceptionally harmful if you breath in the fibres, although white is regarded as the least harmful and blue as the worst.
One fibre can be enough, but then you may be lucky.
Having an asbestos garage roof isn't generally as bad as it sounds. I'm on my third house and all three have had them. Make sure that it isn't damaged at time of purchase (or between purchase and moving in), and then make sure that you don't damage it in any way.
if you want to make sure, you can paint the outside with the black bitument type paint that's readily available, and the inside can be done with a couple a coats of stabilising solution that would be used for brickwork. under no circumstances should you use any abrasive or dry maerial to wipe it down with as this could release fibres into the air.
Im now thinking back to the concrete garage with the asbestos roof I helped dismantle a couple of years ago. Can of spray paint at the ready in case we broke it and that was it i think.
To be honest it seemed less of a risk than trying to gently lower the hugely heavy concrete panels without too much manpower. Especially when two of them came down together and had to hold that one for a few seconds whilst screaming for urgent help! the bolts that held the panels together were still in place but bent as if they were made out of cheese under that weight.
To be honest it seemed less of a risk than trying to gently lower the hugely heavy concrete panels without too much manpower. Especially when two of them came down together and had to hold that one for a few seconds whilst screaming for urgent help! the bolts that held the panels together were still in place but bent as if they were made out of cheese under that weight.
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