A question of Plonk

[Mustard]

Ok PH wine buffs, spot of assistance required, sifting through the wine rack I have 4 bottles I havent a clue where they came from (most likely gifts from customers), or if they are fine wine or plonk

Bottle 1. 2001 Chiroubles - Silvain loron

Bottle 2. 1998 Chateau Sauvage - Premieres cotes de Bordeaux

Bottle 3. 1997 Conde De Valdemar Crianza Rioja

Bottle 4. 1995 Chateau de Sours Bordeaux

Your comments welcome!

[simpo two]

Mustard said:

Bottle 1. 2001 Chiroubles - Silvain loron Bottle 2. 1998 Chateau Sauvage - Premieres cotes de Bordeaux Bottle 3. 1997 Conde De Valdemar Crianza Rioja Bottle 4. 1995 Chateau de Sours Bordeaux

1) No idea
2) From Bordeaux (France)
3) Probably Spanish
4) As (2)

Judging by the vintages, if they were bought recently they might be rather good ones...

[Mustard]

They have not been recently aquired, but ive certainly not had them as long as there vintage suggests, the labels on the bottles are vague, but you are correct in your assumptions Simpo

1. Is French


>> Edited by Mustard on Saturday 1st January 21:40

[simpo two]

The reason I added 'if bought recently' is because some wines are supposed to be drunk young. Hence if the 1995 bottle was supposed to be drunk in 1996 but has been collecting dust for 8 years, it won't be up to much. Does it give any clue about lifespan on the labels?

Oh heck, just drink the f^ckers!

[mxdi]

Ask Don he seems to know his wines

[ErnestM]

I've seen number 2 somewhere before, but have never tried it...

...by the way, if you run across a bottle that says Château Margaux (especially a 1990), do let us know, eh? I'd give you 3 or 4 quid and even pay the shipping to take it off your hands...

ErnestM

[condor]

Mustard said:

Ok PH wine buffs, spot of assistance required, sifting through the wine rack I have 4 bottles I havent a clue where they came from (most likely gifts from customers), or if they are fine wine or plonk Bottle 1. 2001 Chiroubles - Silvain loron Bottle 2. 1998 Chateau Sauvage - Premieres cotes de Bordeaux Bottle 3. 1997 Conde De Valdemar Crianza Rioja Bottle 4. 1995 Chateau de Sours Bordeaux Your comments welcome!

All should be drunk now
Chrioubles is a Beaujolais cru...Loron is a high-quality family business - approx retail value £8

1er Cotes de Bordeaux is a sweet white wine - approx retail value £6

The Rioja - mid-range, approx retail value £8

Ch. de Sours can be either red, white or rose - retail value somewhere between £15-£20 for the red which I'm guessing is what you've got.

[Mustard]

Cheers Condor

The 1995 Chateau de Sours Bordeaux looks like a white to me, IIRC I was given a pair (I've already drunk the Red a while back )

Thought that might be a decent bottle, it was given to me by a guy with a Bentley and a Lexus Ls400 who said it was from a vineyard 'he had an interest in'

I really must start drinking wine at home more often , my kitchen is rather well stocked! (mostly Australian and new world which I know my way around fairly well, and most come with helpful labels!)

[condor]

Ah well...there's a high likelihood of the white being oxidised now. Only thing to do is to open it and find out

[little me]

Talking of wines - we have just been sorting out our out house, and we have counted up that we have nearly 100 bottles of unopened wine that has been given to us over years, along with numerous crates of beer and bottles and bottles of unopened spirits. Then popping my head up into hte attic, i see more bottles of wine and spirits all unopened. Party at my place I'm thinking!

Jane x

[simpo two]

For some reason the mods didn't spot this in GG:

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[Wacky Racer]

Reminds me of an old episode of the "Avengers" where, Patrick M'cNee John Steed was captured whilst trying to impersonate a world renowned wine expert.........

As a test, to discover if he was the "real" expert or not, the criminals gave Steed a very rare wine to taste, to see if he was the genuine person or not, holding a gun to his head....

Of course Steed knew the correct answer, and finished off by stating the wine was "from the north end of the vinyard"............

[HiRich]

Mustard said:

The 1995 Chateau de Sours Bordeaux ... was given to me by a guy with a Bentley and a Lexus Ls400 who said it was from a vineyard 'he had an interest in'

Is that Hugh Ryman? He made his fortune with the stationers, developed Majestic Wine Warehouses, then threw it in to move to Bodeaux. I'm pretty sure he bought Ch de Sours. Some years since I had a bottle, but it's OK.
Hugh's son Nick is well known in the wine business - he specialises in producing decent (if rather uniform) wines from crappy little places.

[munky]

1995 was a very good year for Bordeaux, but white doesn't cellar as long as red so may as well drink it sooner rather than later..

[shirley temple]

little me said:

Talking of wines - we have just been sorting out our out house, and we have counted up that we have nearly 100 bottles of unopened wine that has been given to us over years, along with numerous crates of beer and bottles and bottles of unopened spirits. Then popping my head up into hte attic, i see more bottles of wine and spirits all unopened. Party at my place I'm thinking! Jane x

Where? when? Just booking the cab now!!

Happy new year Jane

[little me]

shirley temple said:

little me said: Talking of wines - we have just been sorting out our out house, and we have counted up that we have nearly 100 bottles of unopened wine that has been given to us over years, along with numerous crates of beer and bottles and bottles of unopened spirits. Then popping my head up into hte attic, i see more bottles of wine and spirits all unopened. Party at my place I'm thinking! Jane x Where? when? Just booking the cab now!! Happy new year Jane

I know you had a happy new year!!! See you on Saturday???

Jane x

[Mustard]

condor said:

Ah well...there's a high likelihood of the white being oxidised now. Only thing to do is to open it and find out

Going down nicely.... hic