Saying no to the OBE...

Saying no to the OBE...

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granville

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18,764 posts

268 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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I see the unelected guardians of our mental well being are at it...again.

This time, in a programme featuring celebrated poet urbanium Benjamin Zephaniah, the less glorious moments from the days of empire were employed to expose the dubious sentiments behind aspects of the honours system.

Good old Aunty seemed pleased to proclaim, as the titles rolled by at the prog's end, that the powers that be were looking into the suitability of the word 'empire' for future recipients.

Along with plays concerning the nativity, I guess this doesn't matter: another traditional thing, utterly steamrollered by the appalling treachery of our enemies within whilst the majority simply burp their numb responses until eventually, it will be all too late and nothing, nothing of Albion will be left.

Only in Britain do we tolerate such bullsh1t.

minimax

11,985 posts

263 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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however, on a good note, mr zephaniah(sp?) drives a TR7 V8

Plotloss

67,280 posts

277 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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derestrictor said:

Only in Britain do we tolerate such bullsh1t.


Astounding wasnt it?

Never mind education and healthcare for all lets concentrate on an unfortunate event and make it look like thats all we ever did.

The ONLY reason some countries are keeping their heads above water is due to the industrialisation that WE took there.

Astounding really, but production values that lefties and the hard of thinking alike will absolutely lap up...

GregE240

10,857 posts

274 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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Oh, thats alright then. Does it stop him attempting to subvert part of English culture and history? No, clearly not.

May the Lucas ignition system be his downfall.

Despicable.

Podie

46,645 posts

282 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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Must admit I watched this programme last night… I can barely hide my abject disgust for this man's attitude. I thought Joan Armatrading's (sp?) argument summed it up… you may not agree with the "Empire" and the past, but accept it as a gift and recognition from the people.

minimax

11,985 posts

263 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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GregE240 said:
Oh, thats alright then. Does it stop him attempting to subvert part of English culture and history? No, clearly not.

May the Lucas ignition system be his downfall.

Despicable.


chap, I only was having a laugh and trying to calm down our good lord of language and turbocharged pork. that's all. if I commented on his posts in a serious manner then my blood pressure would probably end up as high as his own!

v8thunder

27,646 posts

265 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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I mainly agreed with his sentiments but he seemed to have a highly skewed view of British history. Why are we such doom-mongers that every history film or documentary shows us to be a race of scheming elitist thugs?

When I studied the Victorians at school, we didn't learn about the great inventions that advanced British society, just about the pre-teen kids who lost limbs underneath them.

It's this depressing attitude towards history that is contributing to the erosion of traditional 'positive' British values, leaving the lentilists and the racist thugs to fight it out as to who represents Britain. We've got to take back the middle ground.

I must admit though, 'OBE' is a bit outdated as we don't have an Empire any more. Seeing as though everything else with Empire in it has been changed to Commonwealth, I don't see any reason why OBC, MBC and KBC shouldn't take their place. It's realistic rather than PC in that case.

>> Edited by v8thunder on Monday 20th December 12:01

GregE240

10,857 posts

274 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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Nah, its alright minimax, that wasn't aimed back at you mate.

unrepentant

21,671 posts

263 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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The "poet" Benjamin Zephania is best known (in fact is known for nothing else whatsoever by 99% of the public) for turning down the OBE. He has made it the defining moment of his life. Without it he would not be permitted to parade his dubious talent on the TV. Clever move Mr Zephania.

Blair is the fool by trying to ingratiate himself to the masses by anointing the likes of Zephania and other such "right on" mediocrities.

minimax

11,985 posts

263 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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GregE240 said:
Nah, its alright minimax, that wasn't aimed back at you mate.



funky, I'm having a shite day so I'm touchy roll on the revolution!

Podie

46,645 posts

282 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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hmm... could he be hung for treason..?

GregE240

10,857 posts

274 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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minimax said:

GregE240 said:
Nah, its alright minimax, that wasn't aimed back at you mate.




funky, I'm having a shite day so I'm touchy roll on the revolution!
Mate, couple of weeks ago I'd have swapped lives with anyone who wanted to.

Time, what a great healer. I'll see you at the Revolution. First ones on me.

GT

v8thunder

27,646 posts

265 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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unrepentant said:
The "poet" Benjamin Zephania is best known (in fact is known for nothing else whatsoever by 99% of the public) for turning down the OBE. He has made it the defining moment of his life. Without it he would not be permitted to parade his dubious talent on the TV. Clever move Mr Zephania.

Blair is the fool by trying to ingratiate himself to the masses by anointing the likes of Zephania and other such "right on" mediocrities.


Actually, I don't mind Benjamin Zephania. If you take his poems in the context of reggae lyrics they're pretty good, especially considering he's dyslexic.

However, last night he was going all anti-white and comparing himself to Bob Marley, neither of which he should try without expecting ridicule.

stumartin

1,706 posts

244 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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Podie said:
Must admit I watched this programme last night… I can barely hide my abject disgust for this man's attitude. I thought Joan Armatrading's (sp?) argument summed it up… you may not agree with the "Empire" and the past, but accept it as a gift and recognition from the people.


Precisely. I mean for heaven's sake surely this chap has something better to do than worry about whether to accept an award that really isn't about oppression of religion, culture or otherwise and is all about a recognition of a commendable contribution to the people/society/a particular field etc etc? It really is neither here nor there whether it's an OBE, OBC or some other ensemble of letters; the point is that what you've done has been recognised as important.

I thought his poetry was crap anyway

Plotloss

67,280 posts

277 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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The bit about his reference to Bob Marley I had forgotten about.

Which is the bigger ill Mr Zephania?

The Empire or being a serially philandering wife beater?

Don

28,377 posts

291 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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GregE240 said:

May the Lucas ignition system be his downfall.


A finer PHer's curse I would find hard to conceive of.

Superb!

GregE240

10,857 posts

274 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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Don said:

GregE240 said:

May the Lucas ignition system be his downfall.



A finer PHer's curse I would find hard to conceive of.

Superb!
Mate, having serviced the old mans Rovers during my formative years, and seen first hand the sheer shoddiness of key components (like contact breakers that fuse over time), I can think of no worse a punishment. Its like Chinese water torture.

judas

6,069 posts

266 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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I caught the tail end of this programme last night while waiting for Top Gear. Had to turn off before something large and heavy got hurled tv-wards. Only on the BBC - what a bunch of spineless, hand-wringing apologists!

Podie

46,645 posts

282 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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stumartin said:


I thought his poetry was crap anyway


jaker

3,934 posts

276 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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I think the chap needed a darn good haircut, what?