waaaaaaay O/T: cummerbunds
Discussion
the other half and I have had a long running argument about this, which intensifies every year at christmas party time...
is there any protocol for the wearing of a cummerbund?
I think there is: i.e. cummerbund with double breasted dinner suit, waistcoat with single breasted.
Does anyone know?
(does anyone care? - I can't really explain why I give two hoots about this.....)
is there any protocol for the wearing of a cummerbund?
I think there is: i.e. cummerbund with double breasted dinner suit, waistcoat with single breasted.
Does anyone know?
(does anyone care? - I can't really explain why I give two hoots about this.....)
AFAIK, the single-breasted tuxedo should always be worn unbuttoned, and a double breasted one should always be buttoned up.
Cummerbunds are optional - but are only appropriate for single breasted jackets - you should never see it with a double-breatsed one anyway, so not necessary.
Cummerbunds, if worn, should have the pleats facing upwards - so that one can tuck one's opera tickets into the pleats, don't you know!
A waistcoat with any style of dinner jacket is a no-no...
Have to admit I'm not sure though because I wear highland dress to such affairs and the rules for that are even more complicated!
Cummerbunds are optional - but are only appropriate for single breasted jackets - you should never see it with a double-breatsed one anyway, so not necessary.
Cummerbunds, if worn, should have the pleats facing upwards - so that one can tuck one's opera tickets into the pleats, don't you know!
A waistcoat with any style of dinner jacket is a no-no...
Have to admit I'm not sure though because I wear highland dress to such affairs and the rules for that are even more complicated!
I never wear cummerbunds, but I wouldn't say they are naff necessarily - stick to dark colours (burgundy, v dark green, black etc) and you'll be OK.
1. Never wear waistcoats with double breasted jackets - black tie or not.
2. Waistcoats with single breasted dinner jackets should be black.
3. The bottom button (as with all waiscoats, all the time) should be left undone.
4. Stick to black bow ties. These should be real, not elasticated. Anybody who pulls it undone should be swiftly smacked in the chops - it's really not that funny.
5. Shirts should have no buttons but brass coloured studs.
6. Cufflinks should not be garish.
7. Do not wear shirts with patterns etc on the back, that can only be seen when jacket is removed - naff.
8. Jackets should not be removed anyway.
9. Socks should be black.
10. And please never do up the button on a morning coat. They should be left open and flappy. If that's an appropriate word.
All in my opinion / experience of course!
>> Edited by bouffy on Friday 17th December 11:38
1. Never wear waistcoats with double breasted jackets - black tie or not.
2. Waistcoats with single breasted dinner jackets should be black.
3. The bottom button (as with all waiscoats, all the time) should be left undone.
4. Stick to black bow ties. These should be real, not elasticated. Anybody who pulls it undone should be swiftly smacked in the chops - it's really not that funny.
5. Shirts should have no buttons but brass coloured studs.
6. Cufflinks should not be garish.
7. Do not wear shirts with patterns etc on the back, that can only be seen when jacket is removed - naff.
8. Jackets should not be removed anyway.
9. Socks should be black.
10. And please never do up the button on a morning coat. They should be left open and flappy. If that's an appropriate word.
All in my opinion / experience of course!
>> Edited by bouffy on Friday 17th December 11:38
d3ano said:
Is a cummerbund that thing that rolls up on the fat opera singers chest in Bugs Bunny cartoons?
noope. not sure what that's called, but you wear it with white tie...it's the front of a shirt has a little tag on the bottom that attaches to the inside front of one's trouser - keeps the shirt pulled tight, and stops the 'ruffling' of one's shirt.
A cummerbund is the 'spare tyre' that goes around your middle, from a few inches below the top of your trousers, to your belly button (ish).
DanL said:
9. Socks should be black.
A gentleman never wears black socks.
...which explains why I always wear 'em.
Dan
I'll go with that. Gents always wear red, green etc socks, and younger toffs wear their school games socks / uni colours / regimental socks etc. Doesn't look good with black tie, however.
But if you're posh, you generally don't give a
!
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