British Squady Refused British Passport!

British Squady Refused British Passport!

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Hardcore2000

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788 posts

278 months

Monday 13th December 2004
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I am very suprised this is not being talked about on PH, perhaps it is but i have not found it.

Apparently a squaddy of british born and bred parents who was born in rhodesia / zimbabwe (sp?) but went to school in the uk and then joined the british army and served all around the world including the latest iraqi conflict has been refused a passport by blunkets wise men becuase he has spent too much time out of the country serving with the british army. This is the most shocking thing i have heard all year. Its beyond ridiculous. Both his parents are white and british born, this on its own should give someone a right to a pasport let alone the fact he has been serving in the army all his life. We will happily welcome assylum seekers so why can t this guy have a passport?

Piglet

6,250 posts

262 months

Monday 13th December 2004
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Can you post a source with facts in it?

Balmoral Green

41,764 posts

255 months

Monday 13th December 2004
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If it was in the Daily Mail, no chance!

Piglet

6,250 posts

262 months

Monday 13th December 2004
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Balmoral Green said:
If it was in the Daily Mail, no chance!


Alex

9,975 posts

291 months

Monday 13th December 2004
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Serving time in the army counts as British territory in my book.

Daily Mail reader, and proud of it!

Hardcore2000

Original Poster:

788 posts

278 months

Monday 13th December 2004
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its been all over bbc and sky news today so it is not made up. Interviews with the parents e.t.c. PH has its head in the sand

crazylegs

482 posts

250 months

Monday 13th December 2004
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Here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4091871.stm

The BBC said:
Ex-Army officer 'denied passport'

A former Army officer who served in Iraq and Kosovo is being denied a British passport, his family has said.

Zimbabwe-born Captain Warwick Strong was turned down because he was out of the UK on duty, his father Colonel Jeremy Strong claimed.

Passport applicants must have lived in the UK for five years, without leaving for more than 90 days in a year.

The Home Office said the Passport Office is unable to grant documents when "nationality issues are pending".

Capt Strong arrived in Britain in 1998 and attended Sandhurst Military Academy.

He left the Army two months ago, after serving with the Royal Artillery for six years.

He holds an ancestral visa, which has been renewed until October 2006.

Capt Strong's father, from Cirencester, said his son had been denied British citizenship because he had been posted abroad while serving Britain.


If he had worked in a bank, he would now qualify for a British passport
Col Jeremy Strong, father

"He's gone out to protect the interests of the country and the free world in Kosovo and Iraq and he's been denied citizenship through no fault of his own.

"If he had worked in a bank, he would now qualify for a British passport because he would not have been outside the country for 90 days.

"The government uses him and then when he wants something back like a passport, they say `No thank you'."

Col Strong, who lives in Cirencester, Gloucestershire, recently approached Geoffrey Clifton-Brown, MP for Cotswold, who is planning to raise the issue as a point of order in the House of Commons this week.

Mr Clifton-Brown said: "When I received the details about it, I nearly hit the roof. It just seems to me so totally wrong."

A Home Office spokesman said it could not comment on individual cases but added: "The Passport Office has no discretionary powers and has to follow rules as laid out.

"If there is a nationality issue pending or unresolved it would not be able to grant a British passport."


Edited to include article and say to sparky.

>> Edited by crazylegs on Monday 13th December 20:33

sparkythecat

7,961 posts

262 months

Monday 13th December 2004
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Sky News
Monday December 13, 07:35 PM

Ex-Army Officer Denied British Passport
A former British Army captain who fought in Kosovo and Iraq has been told he does not qualify for a passport. Warwick Strong was reportedly denied citizenship because he spent too much time abroad with the Army.The 29-year-old, who was born in Zimbabwe and moved to Britain six years ago, has served with the Royal Artillery.

His passport application was turned down partly because he spent more than 90 days a year out of the country on duty.

His father, Colonel Jeremy Strong, and grandfather both reached the rank of Colonel in the British Army.

Col Strong said the rejection was a slap in the face from the Government and said his son was "disgusted about it".

"He's gone out to protect the interests of the country and the free world in Kosovo and Iraq and he's been denied citizenship through no fault of his own," he said.

In order to qualify for a British passport, the applicant must reside in the UK for five years and not be out of the country for more than 90 days in any year.

Capt Strong arrived in Britain in 1998 and attended Sandhurst Military Academy.

He left the Army two months ago after serving with the Royal Artillery for six years and holds an ancestral visa, which has been renewed until October 2006.

A Home Office spokesman said it would not comment on individual cases.


tvrgit

8,473 posts

259 months

Monday 13th December 2004
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If true, then it's absolutely scandalous. The fat-arsed pen-pushers who make and enforce these rules should be given a tin hat, uncomfy standard-issue boots and a bog roll and sent up Baghdad Hight Street for a stroll...

When they come back they just might see sense...

Zorro

4,474 posts

289 months

Monday 13th December 2004
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You couldn't make it up /Littlejohn

Absolutely pathetic considering the amount of scum we let in sans question.

Pickled Piper

6,387 posts

242 months

Monday 13th December 2004
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Why should we give this Rhodesian bloke a British passport?

pp

Buffalo

5,458 posts

261 months

Monday 13th December 2004
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Sky News said:

In order to qualify for a British passport, the applicant must reside in the UK for five years and not be out of the country for more than 90 days in any year.


Personally i think as in similar cases to the gurkhas, those who fought in the armed forces deserve fast track rights over and above normal "assylum seekers" (for want of better description).

But really, they haven't said he can never have a British Passport, just that he needs to complete the above task.

I mean really, the rest of us have had to pass the test of being able to stomach this shite for more than 5 years for the priviledge of a passport why shouldn't he!

vixpy1

42,676 posts

271 months

Monday 13th December 2004
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Pickled Piper said:
Why should we give this Rhodesian bloke a British passport?

pp


Because he's done a sod lot more for this country than the majority of idiots with one

timsta

2,779 posts

253 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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Yes, but the rules don't change because he was fighting for the country. He was here on an ancesteral Visa (same as I was) and if you are out for more than 90 days in a year then you don't qualify. He would have know this.

As it happens, I have been in the UK for longer than he, I've not been out of the contry for more than 30 days in the last 6 years, and I am still no closer to a passport either.

Anyone can join the forces. You can't change the rules because he was in the forces, or you will create a gaping loophole for all and sundry to get their hands on a passport.

edited because this foreigner can't spell.

>> Edited by timsta on Tuesday 14th December 01:04

centurion07

10,395 posts

254 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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timsta said:
You can't change the rules because he was in the forces, or you will create a gaping loophole for all and sundry to get their hands on a passport.



Sorry but WTF are you talking about? You're suggesting that people will join the British forces to get a passport, not withstanding the fact that they may get sent to a warzone somewhere around the world?

Last I checked it wasn't a case of joining up for 5 minutes then deciding you don't like it. (Although it wouldn't exactly be hard to have a clause in the passport application saying 5 minutes in the Armed Forces doesn't count).

ATG

21,363 posts

279 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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Sorry but WTF, my arse. The rules are clear and haven't changed. If he didn't see this coming, he had his eyes shut.

timsta

2,779 posts

253 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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centurion07 said:

You're suggesting that people will join the British forces to get a passport, not withstanding the fact that they may get sent to a warzone somewhere around the world?


Yep, exactly what I am sugesting. I know people that have, and they now have their passports. Of course, it doesn't work if you are out of the country for more tha 90 days, as the article says.

centurion07

10,395 posts

254 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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timsta said:

Yep, exactly what I am sugesting. I know people that have, and they now have their passports. Of course, it doesn't work if you are out of the country for more tha 90 days, as the article says.


Well more power to 'em then. More worthwhile than just sneaking in the back door & milking the benefits system!

timsta

2,779 posts

253 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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Yep, totally agree. At least they are playing by the rules.

superlightr

12,900 posts

270 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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ATG said:
Sorry but WTF, my arse. The rules are clear and haven't changed. If he didn't see this coming, he had his eyes shut.



and this guy was in the artillery!