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Well after a grand total of 3 weeks laying about I've been offered a job starting in the new year 
Now heres the tricky bit, it's via an agency and they obviously want to put the deal to bed, but 5 minutes after she phoned the man from a company I had an interview with 2 weeks ago called to offer me a second interview at that firm, his job sounds a lot better, with better pay, conditions, and future. I actually turned down a position with them 7 years ago to take Rolls Royce up on their job offer, and then the second interview was really a 'you've got the job' interview
Problem is the agency wants an answer, I've managed to stall them till the middle of next week, but the second interview isn't untill Monday 20th
Now heres the tricky bit, it's via an agency and they obviously want to put the deal to bed, but 5 minutes after she phoned the man from a company I had an interview with 2 weeks ago called to offer me a second interview at that firm, his job sounds a lot better, with better pay, conditions, and future. I actually turned down a position with them 7 years ago to take Rolls Royce up on their job offer, and then the second interview was really a 'you've got the job' interview
Problem is the agency wants an answer, I've managed to stall them till the middle of next week, but the second interview isn't untill Monday 20th
JonRB said:
...if you're prepared to be a bounder and a cad.
I'm just too nice
try to deal with people how I'd like to be delt with, but I s'pose sometimes you just have to be hard faced mrmaggit said:
If the non-Agency Company haven't changed too much since your last 2nd interview, and you still fancy working there, I'd tell the Agency that something has come up.
I've told the agency about the other place, but when I did I hadn't had the call about the second interview, and even then they were making out I was messing them around
I'd be just my luck to tell the agency to stick it, go to the second interview to find it was a head to head with another chap and loose
Difficult. If Company A (who have offered you the job) start to feel that they are second choice to Company B (the ones you have the 2nd interview with) then they may withdraw their offer, so there is only so far you can go with delaying tactics.
One thing you can do is insist that they send the contract to you with all signatures in place apart from your own.
The agency will buck and squirm on that for days, buying you time.
What the agency REALLY want is a contract with your signature on it, but no-one elses. That way they can pull out whenever they want, as you don't have a fully signed contract, but they can sign it whenever they want and make it binding should they wish.
What you are seeking to achieve by asking them to sign first is to put the boot on the other foot - giving you a signed contract that is not binding until you also sign it.
Edit: Bear in mind that most of my experience in this is with freelance / consultant / mercenary work, but the rules and tricks aren't so different for permanent (sic) employment.
>> Edited by JonRB on Friday 10th December 15:53
One thing you can do is insist that they send the contract to you with all signatures in place apart from your own.
The agency will buck and squirm on that for days, buying you time.
What the agency REALLY want is a contract with your signature on it, but no-one elses. That way they can pull out whenever they want, as you don't have a fully signed contract, but they can sign it whenever they want and make it binding should they wish.
What you are seeking to achieve by asking them to sign first is to put the boot on the other foot - giving you a signed contract that is not binding until you also sign it.
Edit: Bear in mind that most of my experience in this is with freelance / consultant / mercenary work, but the rules and tricks aren't so different for permanent (sic) employment.
>> Edited by JonRB on Friday 10th December 15:53
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