Look who’s on Question time
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Ugh! He was on Any Questions (Question Time on the radio) on R4 last week, too, the publicity-seeking slimeball. Apparently someone through a bucket of something rather unpleasant and smelly over him just as he walked into the Any Questions venue, so he had to borrow some clothes for the show...
los angeles said:
He's the fag end of a long line of Tory "renegades" who rationalise their inability to become party leader by deluding themselves into believing they are at one with the people, their party moribund and out of date. He sees himself a radical whereas like the late and odious Enoch Powell he's a low nasty racist bigot, transparent to everyone except himself.
With such men it is their nature to monopolise the limelight. They cannot attain that position remaining a loyal member of a team because a support role is anathema to them. The only way to political power, in their view, is to be seen prepared to take an extreme stand for ethical principles. And so, like others before him and no doubt others after him, Kilroy-Silk strikes out on his own to become the lone tortured voice of sanity ...
In this he is aided and abetted by the media who love a blow-hard who can stir up controversy. This in turn convinces the politician in him his view is in demand because it is truth, the only way forward, and as such, he is perpetually on the point of greatness. The outcome of this gross hubris is pride comes before a ...
Well, you can fill in the rest yourself.
Your absolutely correct except that he was a Labour MP. Which is about the same a Tory these days.
"Share...or shaft!"
Oh come on, Killers is a top class entertainer: I love his barely concealed bourgeois intolerances, he genuinely does speak for an awful lot of people and since he has no political capital to devalue, he can feel quite at liberty to launch the broadsides accordingly.
I thought his aggressive little onslaught against that ridiculous filly at the back of the audience (the one playing the seemingly default and devil's advocate in all issues of the otherwise bleedin' obvious these days) was seminal.
I also thought Ozzy Greer was in fine fettle: her slightly worrying description of 'splattering somepne's brains across the wall(sic)' verging on the comedic.
One of the better QTs for some time, the audience mercifully bereft of the usual, overwhelming commie quotient.
Oh come on, Killers is a top class entertainer: I love his barely concealed bourgeois intolerances, he genuinely does speak for an awful lot of people and since he has no political capital to devalue, he can feel quite at liberty to launch the broadsides accordingly.
I thought his aggressive little onslaught against that ridiculous filly at the back of the audience (the one playing the seemingly default and devil's advocate in all issues of the otherwise bleedin' obvious these days) was seminal.
I also thought Ozzy Greer was in fine fettle: her slightly worrying description of 'splattering somepne's brains across the wall(sic)' verging on the comedic.
One of the better QTs for some time, the audience mercifully bereft of the usual, overwhelming commie quotient.
los angeles said:
He's the fag end of a long line of Tory "renegades" who rationalise their inability to become party leader by deluding themselves into believing they are at one with the people, their party moribund and out of date. He sees himself a radical whereas like the late and odious Enoch Powell he's a low nasty racist bigot, transparent to everyone except himself.
too right, although his monologue at the end, about the religious hatred bill, made me laugh, as he provided a great reason for passing it, ie he would be imprisoned for 7 years..... (not that I am in favour of said bill)
I thought it was a great question time. Whilst I don't agree with Kilroy's own politics, I thought he was superb in helping to put the Blunderkett situation in context and also regarding Sinn Fein's stand-off.
Ed Balls was destroyed in one of the funniest tv moments in ages - you could see towards the end as Germaine Greer got into full stride, that he was visibly squirming. And quite right, he was utterly unable to convincingly support the Government on any of the points made (despite Letwin's bumbling efforts) and more importantly why was he there in the first place?? Was he elected? Can he give the answers or in any real way provide an account of the Government? No, so why couldn't there have been someone with authority from the Government to appear? Because they knew they were in for a trouncing perhaps..?
Ed Balls was destroyed in one of the funniest tv moments in ages - you could see towards the end as Germaine Greer got into full stride, that he was visibly squirming. And quite right, he was utterly unable to convincingly support the Government on any of the points made (despite Letwin's bumbling efforts) and more importantly why was he there in the first place?? Was he elected? Can he give the answers or in any real way provide an account of the Government? No, so why couldn't there have been someone with authority from the Government to appear? Because they knew they were in for a trouncing perhaps..?
derestrictor said:
I thought his aggressive little onslaught against that ridiculous filly at the back of the audience (the one playing the seemingly default and devil's advocate in all issues of the otherwise bleedin' obvious these days) was seminal.
That was one of the funniest things I've seen on QT for a long, long time! When Dimbleby went back to her for a response, she couldn't even speak, she just shook her head and looked as though she was about to burst into tears. I did feel a little sorry for her, but I couldn't help laughing...stumartin said:
he was utterly unable to convincingly support the Government on any of the points made (despite Letwin's bumbling efforts) and more importantly why was he there in the first place?? Was he elected? Can he give the answers or in any real way provide an account of the Government?
Ed Balls is an MP elect - he's been parachuted in to the safe seat of Normanton, West Yorkshire. His wife is MP for Pontefract and Castleford and Parliamentary Secretary in the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister.
He's currently trying to get as many media slots as he can to improve his profile.
Watch Brown go downhill now he's losing his main advisor.
Piccy
>> Edited by Piccy mate on Friday 10th December 13:39
IMHO Kilroy says exactly what most people think but are too afraid.
Unfortunately we are all cowed by PC.
You may not have liked his style but what he said was usually dead right. However, egos have prevailed and the UKIP lost the man who could have got them somewhere.
Who runs UKIP know? Know what he looks like? Nope.
The funny thing is, most PHers think Europe sucks. Yet when someone actually stands up and says 'Europe sucks', we don't like him. Weird.
Unfortunately we are all cowed by PC.
You may not have liked his style but what he said was usually dead right. However, egos have prevailed and the UKIP lost the man who could have got them somewhere.
Who runs UKIP know? Know what he looks like? Nope.
The funny thing is, most PHers think Europe sucks. Yet when someone actually stands up and says 'Europe sucks', we don't like him. Weird.
Well,
I would vote for him. Why?, because I happen to agree with most things he say's. Note. Most..., well let's put it another way. I agree with his opnions more than Blair and the rest of the cabel.
Los Angeles, (or Zzzz 968 for that matter) don't bother with a reply to this. You won't surprise me if you're tempted, but seeing as your a film maker, you most likely have a full 'liberal' brief. But unlike some, particulary those that Kilroy appeals to most> Namely 'ordinary people' who feel that nobody in power agrees with their 'common and garden views' sufficiently to do anything about them. You could never hope to hear the ideals of the ordinary while their is hope of a loftier purpose. Good luck at the Oscars. I know who i'm voting for...
I would vote for him. Why?, because I happen to agree with most things he say's. Note. Most..., well let's put it another way. I agree with his opnions more than Blair and the rest of the cabel.
Los Angeles, (or Zzzz 968 for that matter) don't bother with a reply to this. You won't surprise me if you're tempted, but seeing as your a film maker, you most likely have a full 'liberal' brief. But unlike some, particulary those that Kilroy appeals to most> Namely 'ordinary people' who feel that nobody in power agrees with their 'common and garden views' sufficiently to do anything about them. You could never hope to hear the ideals of the ordinary while their is hope of a loftier purpose. Good luck at the Oscars. I know who i'm voting for...
los angeles said:
Los Angeles, (or Zzzz 968 for that matter) don't bother with a reply to this. seeing as your ... most likely have a full 'liberal' brief. But unlike some, particulary those that Kilroy appeals to most> Namely 'ordinary people' who feel that nobody in power agrees with their 'common and garden views'
Don't let my ideals fool you. I'm a hundred per cent working class.
Statesmanship is about appealing to higher ideals not to the lowest common denominator. The preposterous simple-minded view that Europeans and their filthy lucre are unworthy and the cause of most of our ills has to be repugnant because as Britains most of us are derived from Germans, French, Italians, Spanish, or tribes even farther afield.
I'm not fooled, especially when one quotes their working class credentials all the way from La La Land. Statesmanship is about Power-Stewardship, and that has never guarenteed the highest ideals anywhere, anytime. regards, the contrived nonsense about Europeans and filthy lucre, as well as the cause of all our ills, etc... well, i'm baffled. As for the multi-national Gene bank you speak off, well this one is what he thinks and feels he is, and it's not German master race, Treacherous French, Bent Italians, or Sleepy Spanish. That's a very simplistic but true evaluation of their institutions, and I for one don't want them or the people that instigated them weilding the Sword over me.
los angeles said:
I'm not fooled, especially when one quotes their working class credentials all the way from La La Land.
Yup. Just me and twentytwo million hard working Latinos and Hispanics. You know, there's folk saying the same things here as Killjoy-Milk is saying back home, namely that those races are aliens, thus overlooking the uncomfortable fact this was where they lived for hundreds of years before
"Americans" took it off them. And without them there's no one to clean toilets, streets, and do other menial tasks to keep this side of America ticking over. So sending them home isn't the answer. Draping the Stars and Stripes over white shoulders isn't the answer either. As for the British, they've had the answer to problems of European affilation for years and exercised it: buying houses in France and Spain and Tuscany to live the good life there.
I'm bored now, typical apologist codswallop leading from the back..., You make movies, they clean shit. in what way do you share the same life as 'Latinos and Hispanics' as you refer to them as your point of references, as if they are pawns in your 'debating' interests..., you remind me of the white liberals in this country that espouse this equality crap and then hire a load of first generation africans to take care of errant road users, while they sit in their ivory towers plotting their cultural revolutions. Maybe you should do a remake of Jimmie Deans, Rebel', what'cha got?...
los angeles said:
I'm bored now, typical apologist codswallop leading from the back..., You make movies, they clean shit. in what way do you share the same life as 'Latinos and Hispanics' as you refer to them as your point of references, as if they are pawns in your 'debating' interests..., you remind me of the white liberals in this country that espouse this equality crap and then hire a load of first generation africans to take care of errant road users, while they sit in their ivory towers plotting their cultural revolutions. Maybe you should do a remake of Jimmie Deans, Rebel', what'cha got?...
"Africans?" Nice neat lump of a word. Actually, not so long ago my cousin, also a working class Scot from Edinburgh, was given a heroes funeral by the Mozambique people for decades of service sacrificed on their behalf against poverty. That aside, I see what you have to say and am grateful that you have shown your true colours and how much you care for your fellow man, a concern that goes only so far as to type a few tired words of bile on a web site. Great effort to change the world. Your real name is "Mandrake." Isn't that a poison root?
Will somebody tell this pompous dreamer that 'African' is still a legitmate term for a collective group of people from a continent known as... 'Africa'*, the term has obviously chimed with your PC-Index of modern day no, no's. But it still doesn't get away from the fact that this country is run by a bunch of white liberals who think nothing of 'importing' these people like a 'commodity'. It's not me that denegrates them, it is you and your ilk that are the one's who use them like a 'Joker' in some perverse game of 'It's a Socialist Knockout'. As for your cousin, good for him, but what has that got to do with you or your point?, or are you once again using other peoples endevours to justify your position in this world?, like when you reference 'Latinos' and 'Hispanics', but then it's allright for you to use a collective term, because of course you have decided that morality is on your side, just because you stroll around Sunset telling the world's people just how much you love them all. You're an empty vessel floating in a sea of smugness. So, smug that you are not able to actually address the questions or points in my last thread, instead opting for the "He used the 'A' word!, I win" cry like some pavlovian duracell bunny. As for my views on humanity, don't you dare question them against a backdrop of that still dark continent.
*Main Entry: 1Af·ri·can
Pronunciation: 'a-fri-k&n also 'ä-
Function: noun
1 : a native or inhabitant of Africa
2 : a person and especially a black person of African ancestry
Main Entry: 2African
Function: adjective
: of, relating to, or characteristic of the continent of Africa or its people
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