The man who broke Britain!

The man who broke Britain!

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clubsport

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7,298 posts

265 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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Currently on BBC2...is anyone watching this?...my god..
I thought this may be a bit of fun, but apart from using the jargon, what a sensationalist programme.

So the oil price goes up......ok...stocks get killed,..buy volatility as a hedge,,,,if oil is up ..stocks are hurt..fixed income is on f##king fire and Vol is through the roof......this would be a great opportunity.

I met Nick Leeson at the Barings Xmas bash, dec '94 quiet as a mouse we killed him in drinking games, before he imploded in Feb '95......most of us found out something was in the air on the friday...Bank of England met with senior UK bankers on saturday....markets went higher, as Tokyo opened sunday evening.......the actors in this seem lame...the city really does tend to get a sniff of problems as they unfold and momentum traders get the chance to join the party,,way before Government statements come out.......sorry it is a TV programme and appears scary...I hope I didn't shatter any illusions.

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Zorro

4,474 posts

289 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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I've just finished reading Rogue Trader again, the story fascinates me. Is he telling the truth when he says he created the 5 8s account to cover mistakes made by his team or was he using it from the kickoff to speculate ?

FourWheelDrift

89,635 posts

291 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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Typical BBC sensationalism and scaremongering.

matt_t16

3,402 posts

256 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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What a load of

Good telly though - but they really should warn the numpties this is fiction and not at all a factualy correcty documentary on what 'could' happen.

Matt

FourWheelDrift

89,635 posts

291 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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matt_t16 said:
but they really should warn the numpties this is fiction and not at all a factualy correcty documentary on what 'could' happen.

Matt


Designed to be broadcast in the 9pm (serious TV time slot) on BBC2 and to also catch the 10:30pm Newsnight types who'll turn over early.

clubsport

Original Poster:

7,298 posts

265 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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Zorro said:
I've just finished reading Rogue Trader again, the story fascinates me. Is he telling the truth when he says he created the 5 8s account to cover mistakes made by his team or was he using it from the kickoff to speculate ?


I believe the latter.....I was working at the US bank that let Ron Baker & Mary Waltz go......because they were not quite up to the standard required (over polite).....if you have read the book, they were Mr Leasons immediate bosses.......we never gave them responsibility over ordering lunch

simpo two

87,082 posts

272 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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Tragic really that a few bits of panic can the world: it's mostly needless.

clubsport

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7,298 posts

265 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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In the real world I would be suprised if these events would have occurred,,,,for a start,,,the US has substantial oil reserves...these would be used to quell the oil price...opec would pump like crazy...and if the worst were to happen...central banks would cut interest rates to ensure the global economy was assisted by cheap money....from sept 01 us rates were cut from 3.5% to 1% in june 2003 to keep the world afloat.........if this programme were real and these events were to unfold,,the opportunities that appear to exist would mean that many of us would never have to work again and also that the british grand prix would definitely go ahead on our own private circuit

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Zod

35,295 posts

265 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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clubsport said:
most of us found out something was in the air on the friday...Bank of England met with senior UK bankers on saturday....markets went higher, as Tokyo opened sunday evening.......the actors in this seem lame...the city really does tend to get a sniff of problems as they unfold and momentum traders get the chance to join the party,,way before Government statements come out.......sorry it is a TV programme and appears scary...I hope I didn't shatter any illusions.

Yup. I was a junior lawyer at the time and I got a call at 8 on Saturday morning to put me on standby. I reckon the whole City knew by early Saturday morning.

Nevin

2,999 posts

268 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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Bet Credit Suisse will be really happy about the "made up" bank name they are using

off_again

13,043 posts

241 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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FourWheelDrift said:
Typical BBC sensationalism and scaremongering.


Straight and to the point as usual - but absolutely correct. Sensationalism in the extreme. And we pay our license (nee tax) fee for this drivel.... nice....