Medics! Skeleton Wanted - real, not plastic.
Discussion
OK, I would have put this on General Gassing before and risked its being locked, but here goes:
I need to obtain a full size, real bone (plastic doesn't have enough detail) articulated human skeleton for an orthopaedic surgery trainee. A half skeleton would do but full skeletons are articulated and this is preferable to a "box of bones". Price is important but quality is vital. Knowing there are medics on here I thought it worth floating out a "wanted" post. Thanks.
I need to obtain a full size, real bone (plastic doesn't have enough detail) articulated human skeleton for an orthopaedic surgery trainee. A half skeleton would do but full skeletons are articulated and this is preferable to a "box of bones". Price is important but quality is vital. Knowing there are medics on here I thought it worth floating out a "wanted" post. Thanks.
Motco, fraid I can't help you with your request but your best bet is to try the BMJ website classified ads. The BMJ is the British Medical Journal and there's ususally a couple of ads in it for real skeletons. I doubt you'll get a full one, most of the ones sold these days are half skeletons, but it's certainly worth a try. They're not cheap though, about £400 to £600.
Just had a quick look and here's one for you:
www.bmjclassified.com/cgi-bin/full-details.pl?id=261800&c=90&sr=16
Just out of interest what's wrong with a plastic one? I currently teach medical students anatomy (as a part of surgical training) and we use plastic skeletons from a company called 'Adam Rouilly' (or something like that). You'd be surprised how good they are (and cheaper too!
)
Anyway, hope that's a help, good luck in your quest,
Simon
Just had a quick look and here's one for you:
www.bmjclassified.com/cgi-bin/full-details.pl?id=261800&c=90&sr=16
Just out of interest what's wrong with a plastic one? I currently teach medical students anatomy (as a part of surgical training) and we use plastic skeletons from a company called 'Adam Rouilly' (or something like that). You'd be surprised how good they are (and cheaper too!
) Anyway, hope that's a help, good luck in your quest,
Simon
Thanks SiH, The skeleton is for my son who has trauma orthopaedics as a career aim. He has been given the opinion that a natural product would be preferable to a plastic one because of the difficulty of casting the re-entrant cavities in, say, the skull in resin. I have passed your comments to him and also the details of Adam, Rouilly's website. I have to admit that the pictures look more credible than some others I have seen!
Your helpand comments are greatly appreciated, many thanks.
Your helpand comments are greatly appreciated, many thanks.
What a suprise Ebay has one.
Item - 3858865427
Sorry. Bone model yes, but made from durable, unbreakable plastic in natural bone colour.
Typical
>> Edited by FourWheelDrift on Thursday 9th December 21:40
Item - 3858865427
Sorry. Bone model yes, but made from durable, unbreakable plastic in natural bone colour.
Typical
>> Edited by FourWheelDrift on Thursday 9th December 21:40
BliarOut said:
Have you tried these guys ?
<a href="http://www.burkeandhare.co.uk">www.burkeandhare.co.uk</a>
Ah! But Burke and Hare weren't interested in skeletons. They were snatching fresh cadavers for medical students and doctors to dissect.
(Ok....pedant alert).
[quote=motco] The skeleton is for my son who has trauma orthopaedics as a career aim. He has been given the opinion that a natural product would be preferable to a plastic one because of the difficulty of casting the re-entrant cavities in, say, the skull in resin. quote]
I suggest save some cash. If your son is at med school or may now be qualified then he should get down to the dissection room and look at some proper specimens and prosections that will have infinately more detail and relevance than just a skeleton. Real skeletons are V hard to come by and expensive. The dissection room should be free if you are nice to the supervisor.
Trauma orthopaedics is not just about bones; it is important to know ligamentous and muscle insertions and relationships of the major nerves and blood vessels. I don't think knowing all the cranial foramen in the skull base is essential for an orthopaedic surgeon although it is required to pass the MRCS exam. A plastic one would be fine if needed.
>> Edited by pullingpower on Thursday 9th December 22:58
I suggest save some cash. If your son is at med school or may now be qualified then he should get down to the dissection room and look at some proper specimens and prosections that will have infinately more detail and relevance than just a skeleton. Real skeletons are V hard to come by and expensive. The dissection room should be free if you are nice to the supervisor.
Trauma orthopaedics is not just about bones; it is important to know ligamentous and muscle insertions and relationships of the major nerves and blood vessels. I don't think knowing all the cranial foramen in the skull base is essential for an orthopaedic surgeon although it is required to pass the MRCS exam. A plastic one would be fine if needed.
>> Edited by pullingpower on Thursday 9th December 22:58
the bone seller said:LIFESIZE ANATOMICAL HUMAN SKELETON. (MALE)
Item - 3858865427
!!! IMPOTANT !!!
As if having your bones for sale on eBay isn't humiliating enough!!!
SiH and Pullingpower, Thanks for your advice. I shall pass the information on to him when I see him. My understanding is perhaps a little distorted by the fact that I am a layman and may not have grasped the salient points of his request. Your advice, and that which I have gleaned from elsewhere, leads me to believe that not only are real ones very expensive, but about as common as hen's teeth too! I shall turn my search towards a good quality moulded one. Thanks again
>> Edited by motco on Friday 10th December 09:40
>> Edited by motco on Friday 10th December 09:40
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