Out of Body & Telepathy

Out of Body & Telepathy

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UKBoB

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16,277 posts

272 months

Wednesday 8th December 2004
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Has anyone had lucid out of body experiences, or telepathic experiences, either of which which go beyond what some refer to as imagination or coincidence?

simpo two

87,082 posts

272 months

Wednesday 8th December 2004
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Only in dreams. Last night I was levitating at will and generally being a good bloke, wafting about, doing good and healing people
(Just call me JC!)

UKBoB

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16,277 posts

272 months

Wednesday 8th December 2004
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Neither

Ive had a few girlfriend I believe I shared a "good connection" with. Just playing with numbers mate.

re: telepathy, had success rates which I would imagine the odds of achieving would be... hundreds of billions, to one, probably literally.

simpo two

87,082 posts

272 months

Wednesday 8th December 2004
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anonymous said:
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Ah, 'Fruit Snap'.

Banana?
Watermelon

UKBoB

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272 months

Wednesday 8th December 2004
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:ROFL: Banana... Nice one

Ive always been fascinated by telepathic related material. I had an OBE whilst asleep on a friday night once, it was more of a lucid dream, and spent what seemed like 20 minutes with a friend, watching him and his movements around a pub, talking to people, going to the bathroom in a pub I had never been to, getting on his motorcycle, following his exact movements down various roads, taking various turns (in an area I had never been to) and then saw him crash. We confirmed everything at school after the event, both of us being in a sate of awe/shock, the memory of his exact movements within the pub, on the roads being crystal in my mind some time later.

My girlfriend and I, after watching too much Derren Brown, played number games. I asked her to pick a number between 1 and 99.

We played a dozen times or so, and fearing failure I took a good 10-30 mintes per turn, one game a week or so. I guessed her number correctly (which was always written on a napkin out of view) correctly on my first guess about 7 times out of 12.

3 times or so I got the number on my second guess. I only failed to guess the number correctly a few times, and gave up after 4/5 guesses. Had the numbers back to front once as I recall.

I had another girlfriend a decade ago, and remember her asking me the suits of 20 playing cards. As I recall, I got the suit correct 17 times in a row.

I mean, what are the odds of that happening?

My current girlfriend and I played backwards, her trying to guess my number. Again, out of all the games we played, she guessed my 1-99 number correctly first time 50% of the time. On more than one occasion, I told her she had a number, told her what it was (confirmed after us both writing numbers down) telling her before hand what her incorrect number was, and telling her when she had the right number.

We have spooked each other enough times to rule out any coincidence. Its... hard to explain. Its all about feeling, pushing aside emotion and excitment, only playing with someone you connect with.

Ive tried it on various women, and only ever had success with those I have been close to. As for blokes, they'll think yer mad if you ask to play mind games

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Fatboy

8,089 posts

279 months

Wednesday 8th December 2004
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TBH mate, it's more likely you simply remember the few occasions it did work rather than the many occasions it was a complete flop....

It's human nature to look for patterns where none exist.

UKBoB

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Wednesday 8th December 2004
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Fatboy said:
TBH mate, it's more likely you simply remember the few occasions it did work rather than the many occasions it was a complete flop....

It's human nature to look for patterns where none exist.


Like I said, we only played a dozen times.

Fatboy

8,089 posts

279 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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UKBoB said:

Fatboy said:
TBH mate, it's more likely you simply remember the few occasions it did work rather than the many occasions it was a complete flop....

It's human nature to look for patterns where none exist.



Like I said, we only played a dozen times.


Call me a cynic, but unless I can see it, hear it, measure it, touch it or pound it with a 5-iron, I don't believe in it. I'd say it was more likely to be selective memory/pure chance on your part than ESP. I could well be wrong, but untill it can be measured, I'll take the cynical door

thebluemonkey

1,296 posts

247 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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I'm sorry but I just don't believe in telepathy, it just seems too far fetched, I do however believe that we are can be wired up in very similar ways.

Could it be possible that it was a Derren Brown situation ? Where the words that you say influence the outcome and it only works with people that you are very intimate to you because they are a very close match mentally to you ?

If it is then get intimate with someone who likes betting huge amounts of money.

UKBoB

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16,277 posts

272 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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Monkey, fatboy, what can I say?

Im not out to convince anyone, but my experiences were like I said they were. No one gave em to me, no one can take em away[/melodrama]

I have 'freakier' stories but why post them here for scrutiny?

Scratch your chins all you like, but its not cool to scratch them at others (if that makes any sense at all)

If you were born to follow the path of scrutiny and disbelief, it's none of my business.

[kenobi]You may go about your business, move along. Move along. [/kenobi]

thebluemonkey

1,296 posts

247 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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I hope I didn't offend, I don't disbelieve the facts that you have recounted, just the explanation. I just believe that there are several explanations for every event and that there is so much that we don;t understand about ourselves that this is the first place to look before we look at other things that may influence us. If you beleive in telepathy the go for it, just dont go reading my mind

condor

8,837 posts

255 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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I think you have to have a very close connection to another being for telepathy to work.

Probably the easiest way is through the eyes.

I've often tried to send telepathic messages ...but they've not been received ....similarly I think I'm getting telepathic messages - and they're the wrong ones

UKBoB

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Thursday 9th December 2004
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thebluemonkey said:
I hope I didn't offend, I don't disbelieve the facts that you have recounted, just the explanation. I just believe that there are several explanations for every event and that there is so much that we don;t understand about ourselves that this is the first place to look before we look at other things that may influence us. If you beleive in telepathy the go for it, just dont go reading my mind
It sounds like you're keen to discredit things, yep open minded enough to feel something exists.

I dont really debate it, to be honest. I remember one night, I was sleeping over at my Aunts. I was 17 or so, and crashed on her floor. My girlfriend was sleeping elsewhere in the house. We agreed that before bed, she would call my name "UK-BOB" (just kidding, its Rob We agreed that she would call "Rob" mentally, untill i heard her or fell asleep.

The night was dark and still (wooo) You could have heard a pin drop. I clearly remember two things. Hearing nothing, then hearing my aunt say "Rob, I think Ché's calling you"

Going back to the numbers, when you know someone well enough you let yourself "feel" and be open.

How did I get a sense that my girlfriend had chosen the number 38 (for example) and where did the thought come from to tell her she had chosen number 38. I wrote down what number I was sure she had chosen. Told her to tell me the number she chose and confirmed it was the wrong one (odds of that happening are 1 in 100) and then tell her when she had the right number (which she guessed correctly. Odds of that happening are 1 in 10'000

Add that to the majority of numbers guessed correctly first or second time.

There was the time my grandmother was driving down a road on the side of Table Mountain, De Vall Drive (forget spelling, its a road she's taken thousands of times before) She hears a voice in her head say "Slow down!" and slows right down. 30 seconds and half a mile later, a car in front of her suddenly veers into the side of the mountain, flips over the skids across the road.

Then there was the time I was in a restaurant earlier this year, deciding which meal to order, when suddenly the half shoulder of lamb on the menu came to life and said "Eat me!" so I ordered it. What are the chances of that... Just kidding

lazyitus

19,926 posts

273 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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Stan, an elderley friend who used to come to football with us had an out of body experience.

Firstly, Stan is now in his 80's. He stopped going to football because his eyesight started to fail. He has all his faculties and is a decent gentleman with a genuine story.

His story goes thus...

Whilst lying in the bath one evening, Stan was relaxing and became aware that he was leaving his body. The thought passed his mind that he was actually dying. He felt very calm and for some reason didn't resist the feeling.

He speaks of rising above himself and literally stopping at the ceiling and as clear as day, looking down upon himself in the bath. He remembers thinking how really bizarre it was.

Beyond this, he passed through the all too familiar tunnel towards a most magnificent bright light. He had to opt for one of 2 exits and naturally chose the bright one. On entering this 'department', he describes seeing the most beautiful colours and scenery that he had ever seen. He can not get across how stunning these images were.

This lasted a short while and Stan returned to his self in the bath.


Now, I know Stan and I know that he tells this story with an absolute truth and vividness.

What really scares Stan is that he knows he could make himself do this again but will not take that step.

He is more fascinated about this phenomonen than your average guy, because of his first hand experience.

Truely, a remarkable event. Absolutely weird!

jacobyte

4,746 posts

249 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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I used to be heavily into Ethereal Projection and Astral travelling. It works and they exist - no question about it. But you do get "noticed" and it can become dangerous.

But it's not really worth discussing this kind of thing in detail on a public forum due to the trolls

swilly

9,699 posts

281 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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There is unquestionably something, currently unknown to us, with regard to our minds, telepathy and all the other associated topics.

How many people have experienced the feeling of being watched and it has turned out to be so, or suddenly thinking of someone only to have the phone ring and it be them, or to be with someone and find you are both thinking the same out-of-the-ordinary thing.

Given that the brain operates via electrical impulses and that electrical fields interact with each other is it too far fetched to believe certain areas of our brain transmit and recieve signals. The question is whether we this function is dormant, forgotten or simply not recognised.

forever_driving

1,869 posts

257 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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If you read* the book 'Holographic Universe', you'll find some plausible scientific theories on how ghosts, telepathy, astral projection etc are all possible.

It's about 15 years old, but gives a detailed explanation of how the brain perceives the world around it.

*and understand

paolow

3,246 posts

265 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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jacobyte said:
I used to be heavily into Ethereal Projection and Astral travelling. It works and they exist - no question about it.


When i was living in OZ i talked to my sister about this and decided to 'have a go'. not really knowing what to do i decided to have a lucid dream (which i can do at will) and then see if i can travel as far as the uk and check things out. (id travel by flying matrix style)
Things were going well, i had a lucid dream and began my journey, but very soon i found myself rising toward the heavens which were starting to cloud over. by the time i got there, they were terrifying with thunder and lighting and it was very disturbing.
I dont remember what happened after that, but i have a distinctly uneasy feeling when i think of it - like when you get drunk and do something you shouldnt and then cant quite remember what it was until youre told!
I can still remember it to this day and the memory is crystal clear (apart from the end). Now, you might say its just a nightmare, and maybe it was, but when i woke up i was so physically exhausted i couldnt stay awake and then had to have another 8-9 hours of sleep immediately after.
ive never tried it since, but more really to do with the negative imagine in my brain which would affect lucid dreams if i tried it again.
say what you will, thats just my experience and how it happened.

Zorro

4,474 posts

289 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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There was a guy on Radio 1 a while back who was into this sort of stuff, he played this game and it sort of went something like this... he asked the listeners to pick a letter at random and think about it. He then said you can either keep it or change it for the one he was thinking about, I immediately changed from S to D. Before he even said his was D I would've bet my house on it. I just knew. And it was. Sure it's a 26 to 1 shot but something was going on.

UKBoB

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272 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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Journeys Out of the Body, by Robert Monroe is a very good book on the subject. Robert later went on to pioneer much in the way of research at the Monroe institute, and wrote other followup books.