Defending your home?
Discussion
Listening to the news today got me thinking. If you came home one day and found a burglar ransacking your home, but not overtly acting violently towards you, how far would you go to defend your property and family?
Some of these crooks have knives hidden away, and, when backed, into a corner who can tell what they'd do? Who's to decide what reasonable force is?
If I had a basesball bat to hand I'm certain I'd use it. Would this be deemed to be 'unreasonable' in a court of law?
Some of these crooks have knives hidden away, and, when backed, into a corner who can tell what they'd do? Who's to decide what reasonable force is?
If I had a basesball bat to hand I'm certain I'd use it. Would this be deemed to be 'unreasonable' in a court of law?
Should sanity prevail, and householders have much greater rights in terms of defending their homes, be interesting to see what happens to burglary statistics.
Not that I know any, but I would imagine the average burglar is a pathetic spineless little creep. If he knows he is more likely than he is now to have a baseball bat wrapped round his head if he breaks in when someone is at home perhaps he would seek gainful employment in a less precarious profession.
Not that I know any, but I would imagine the average burglar is a pathetic spineless little creep. If he knows he is more likely than he is now to have a baseball bat wrapped round his head if he breaks in when someone is at home perhaps he would seek gainful employment in a less precarious profession.
mutt k said:I know dozens of burglars.
Not that I know any, but I would imagine the average burglar is a pathetic spineless little creep.
Most of them are miserable characters that look like Gollum dressed in Burberry.
It is their smell which tends to be frightening, not their demeanour.
Cheers
Pat
My defence would be, "I fix broken machinery how would I know what 'reasonable force' is? I've never had to defend my family and home against an intruder so I did whatever I could to stop him, I'm not an expert at fighting so tried to stop him as best I could"
Surely that would be enough to explain the lump hammer embedded in his skull?
Surely that would be enough to explain the lump hammer embedded in his skull?
. these days its just an ice axe JulianHJ said:
Labour Govt. and the nanny state
Handguns banned = big drop in gun crime?
Does it fk!
Yeah and i'll add that it was legal as well. All making hand guns illegal did wa put many more in the hands of criminals..
If i'd ever shot a scrote with it. I wouldnt have needed to worry about getting rid of a whole body, have you seen what a well aimed 1/2 inch semi-jacketed hollow point can do
srebbe64 said:
Listening to the news today got me thinking. If you came home one day and found a burglar ransacking your home, but not overtly acting violently towards you, how far would you go to defend your property and family?
Some of these crooks have knives hidden away, and, when backed, into a corner who can tell what they'd do? Who's to decide what reasonable force is?
If I had a basesball bat to hand I'm certain I'd use it. Would this be deemed to be 'unreasonable' in a court of law?
I'd have no qualms whatsoever in kneecapping the barsteward with my Ruger Blackcock, he definitely would not walk away... and wouldn't give a stroppy answer either
Indeed 
'bout time too 
For my part, I'm lamp the barsteward, no doubt about it.
BUT, I've often thought about this....What if you lamp him and he comes back at a later date with his Cronies? After all, he now knows who you are and where you live.
Maybe an argument for the 'ol concrete wellies?!
'bout time too For my part, I'm lamp the barsteward, no doubt about it.
BUT, I've often thought about this....What if you lamp him and he comes back at a later date with his Cronies? After all, he now knows who you are and where you live.
Maybe an argument for the 'ol concrete wellies?!
Not sure what I'd do - I might have to use some 'reasonable force' to get my 10 stone not very friendly when meeting new people bullmastiff off them 
I know a few people who have caught a burglar 'in the act' and said you don't have time to react. Its all well and good saying you would do this and that on a forum but faced with a drug crazed neanderthal and wearing only your PJs it would probably be a different matter.
The burglars where I live seem to operate in pairs and to those that say (probably not on here!) John Stevens words will only make the burglars carry weapons, they do already anyway - screwdrivers, crowbars , jemmys ,etc. I've even heard stories about them boiling the kettle in case anyone stirs upstairs.
Its nice up here (Manchester) isn't it Tonker?
I know a few people who have caught a burglar 'in the act' and said you don't have time to react. Its all well and good saying you would do this and that on a forum but faced with a drug crazed neanderthal and wearing only your PJs it would probably be a different matter.
The burglars where I live seem to operate in pairs and to those that say (probably not on here!) John Stevens words will only make the burglars carry weapons, they do already anyway - screwdrivers, crowbars , jemmys ,etc. I've even heard stories about them boiling the kettle in case anyone stirs upstairs.
Its nice up here (Manchester) isn't it Tonker?
I regularly visit www.gwangung.co.uk and www.blades-uk.com (building up a nice collection of 'toys' now), and have a few years (almost 20) of martial arts training... in fact the front room is dedicated to my martial arts training, with a kickbag shaped like an adult male, pads and a gravel bag, so if a burglar breaks in through the front door they might get the hint that they are better off burgling next door.
The last thing they'll probably hear is 'ooo this looks like fun' and *shinggg*.
PS Tony Martin made a pig's ear of the task.
The last thing they'll probably hear is 'ooo this looks like fun' and *shinggg*.
PS Tony Martin made a pig's ear of the task.
love machine said:
100%, I would defend myself. As far as I am concerned, inside my house, UK law does not apply.
I would just be very thorough about how I got rid of the body.
Definitely. If someone is in my house uninvited I will assume that they are there to hurt my family and treat them accordingly. Bo||ocks to reasonable force.
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