Asian woman murdered over love song..
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That's nasty, and hard to comprehend a parent murdering their own child. Saw one on Fark.com where some kids were sentenced to be stoned to death for the boy getting the girl pregnant (in Saudi Arabia). For all their religious ferver, they harbor a lot of hate and seem not to value human life.
seafarer said:
That's nasty, and hard to comprehend a parent murdering their own child. Saw one on Fark.com where some kids were sentenced to be stoned to death for the boy getting the girl pregnant (in Saudi Arabia). For all their religious ferver, they harbor a lot of hate and seem not to value human life.
Do "they" really??
Well God Bless America to save the world then.
Never mind the thousands murdered every year in your wonderful peace loving utopia.
seafarer said:
That's nasty, and hard to comprehend a parent murdering their own child. Saw one on Fark.com where some kids were sentenced to be stoned to death for the boy getting the girl pregnant (in Saudi Arabia). For all their religious ferver, they harbor a lot of hate and seem not to value human life.
Yes it is a very sad and unpleasant story that reveals very backward and unpleasant people. However it's a bit unnecessary to then label all people in one country with the same tag.
anonymous said:
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Most peoples (sic) DON'T commit awful things at all - FFS : equating pre-meditated murder of one's daughter with (albeit dodgy ) imprisonment of terrorist suspects ?
Absolutely no excuse for him to stab his daughter to death - medieval dogma or traditional family "customs " ? ....still don't justify it
get a grip -don't be ridiculous.
Why don't we punish them in their terms, at least for the deterrent effect -any family where a member is found guilty of such lunacy should find itself so dishonoured in our society that nobody would wish their family to undergo the disgrace - paint their house blood red, withdraw their benefits, no visas for relatives, confiscate their passports. But I forget, we are a society with little honour, few values and no real backbone.
968 said:
That's nasty, and hard to comprehend a parent murdering their own child. Saw one on Fark.com where some kids were sentenced to be stoned to death for the boy getting the girl pregnant (in Saudi Arabia). For all their religious ferver, they harbor a lot of hate and seem not to value human life.
Yes it is a very sad and unpleasant story that reveals very backward and unpleasant people. However it's a bit unnecessary to then label all people in one country with the same tag.
I didn't label them all. I labeled the father who murdered his daughter for "moral" reasons and those individuals who ruled to have some 14 year olds stoned to death, and they weren't even murderers themselves. Do I think every muslim, Asian, or citizen of a middle eastern country are all alike? Of course not. And I don't think the governmental practices necessarily reflect the views of the general populace. These are two instances where religious passion has lead to the unfair and barbaric treatment of people. They are only two examples of attrocities that occur in all cultures, all over the world. I also didn't actually say that there are no injustices carried out by Americans. There are. You presumed that I must have been implying that America can do no wrong because I talked about two incidents that occured in another country? The KKK counts itself as a religious group and hunted down and hanged black Americans. There are still accounts of organized racist murder today, even though there is supposed to be equal protection under the law. They carried out their form of terrorism and murder in this country for decades (arguably they still do), but for years, white, racist, segregated America turned a blind eye to it. This is a better example of crime based on religious beliefs than those being held in Gtmo for being suspected of links to terrorists. The premise of that (unfair or not) is security; there's no religious basis in it.
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I didn't label them all. I labeled the father who murdered his daughter for "moral" reasons and those individuals who ruled to have some 14 year olds stoned to death, and they weren't even murderers themselves......quote]
Yes all very well, but then why ruin a perfectly good statement with "For all their religious ferver, they harbor a lot of hate and seem not to value human life."
I am sorry, who was THEY? do you mean ALL Saudis or just some?
I didn't label them all. I labeled the father who murdered his daughter for "moral" reasons and those individuals who ruled to have some 14 year olds stoned to death, and they weren't even murderers themselves......quote]
Yes all very well, but then why ruin a perfectly good statement with "For all their religious ferver, they harbor a lot of hate and seem not to value human life."
I am sorry, who was THEY? do you mean ALL Saudis or just some?
968 said:
Yes, the government imposes a harsh regime on the people, but that doesn't give anyone the right to judge the actions of an entire population of millions on the policies of their government.
True - but to what extent are the policies driven from the Government or from a cultural / religious perspective in the society ? For example : beheading of Homosexuals / dissenters , imprisoning and torturing Christians , and stoning of adulterers ... are those things purely down to a harsh Government or do they also get popular support from the populace ? ( ......I don't know)
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True - but to what extent are the policies driven from the Government or from a cultural / religious perspective in the society ? For example : beheading of Homosexuals / dissenters , imprisoning and torturing Christians , and stoning of adulterers ... are those things purely down to a harsh Government or do they also get popular support from the populace ? ( ......I don't know)[/quote]
Well your answer is to go to pretty much any other Muslim country and ask whether people live under such an extreme an authoritarian rule, answer is no. Their societies are hardly perfect, but very few countries have such harsh laws.
True - but to what extent are the policies driven from the Government or from a cultural / religious perspective in the society ? For example : beheading of Homosexuals / dissenters , imprisoning and torturing Christians , and stoning of adulterers ... are those things purely down to a harsh Government or do they also get popular support from the populace ? ( ......I don't know)[/quote]
Well your answer is to go to pretty much any other Muslim country and ask whether people live under such an extreme an authoritarian rule, answer is no. Their societies are hardly perfect, but very few countries have such harsh laws.
anonymous said:
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Ok smart alec, what about Dubai, Bahrain, Malaysia, Indonesia, Pakistan, Tunisia, Egypt, Lebanon, Morocco?
But hang on a minute, this whole discussion started with the assertion that the guy wasn't trying to label entire sections of people, and now, you are demonstrating that you are trying to label entire populations of people, which is entirely characteristic and entirely typical of you.
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