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Who remembers the day that Music Mattered? Sitting in front of the little telly with your headband and luminous green'n'pink socks, supping Quatro while the greatest names in rock worked their hearts and lungs out in one marathon megaband session. I was only a child, then, but I remember much of it.
BOWIE! ANNIE LENNOX! MCCARTNEY! U2! Boy George Michael, Duran, Ant, Ure, Kemp, Quo!
Collins, Fahey, Robert "Kool" Bell...
Names that (mostly) still echo down the hall of music fame 20 years on. Names that still top the bill of concerts (eg. Hadley vs Cox at the Labatts Apollo) and shake the top of the charts two decades after the event.
In 2024, five years after society becomes a Blade Runner dystopia of flying cars, smog, ray guns and helmeted "cyber-cops", will we still be remembering the muddled, artless dirge I heard on RADIO 1 this morning?
Will we be able to distinguish the voices -- technically proved to be near-identical -- of the whining goblins who front "Travis", "Coldplay", "Keane" and "Snow Patrol"? Will the showboating warble of TV competition winner Lemar and ex-nobody Shaznay Lewis be anything but a slurry, unpalatable to the more civilised ears of the Twenties?
Will Robbie Williams, perhaps with his own Des O'Sullivan type chatshow broadcasting to the dark side of the moon, be anything more than the voiceover of naff 90s nostalgia series? Aren't we more likely to listen to Queen and Slade than novelty imitators the Darkness? And Miss Dynamitey-who?
Even now, this is a laughable travesty! It sounds like a bunch of tracks recorded from Australia, Japan and the US on different days and stuck together in London. At best it comes off as a party game, boy-girl-boy-girl taking a line each, identical white "rock" singers alternating with the identical black "R'n'B" voices until the gape-at-your-radio moment when Dizzee Rascal grabs the mic and slurs out something that sounds like a B-boy down my local shop asking for 20 Marlboro and a can of Red Stripe or he batter your face in man and come back with his crew, seen, aight.
I would rather listen to the rattling of a tin for 3 minutes. Actually I would pay a tenner if it guaranteed this record was taken off the market immediately.
I'll donate the money directly.
BOWIE! ANNIE LENNOX! MCCARTNEY! U2! Boy George Michael, Duran, Ant, Ure, Kemp, Quo!
Collins, Fahey, Robert "Kool" Bell...
Names that (mostly) still echo down the hall of music fame 20 years on. Names that still top the bill of concerts (eg. Hadley vs Cox at the Labatts Apollo) and shake the top of the charts two decades after the event.
In 2024, five years after society becomes a Blade Runner dystopia of flying cars, smog, ray guns and helmeted "cyber-cops", will we still be remembering the muddled, artless dirge I heard on RADIO 1 this morning?
Will we be able to distinguish the voices -- technically proved to be near-identical -- of the whining goblins who front "Travis", "Coldplay", "Keane" and "Snow Patrol"? Will the showboating warble of TV competition winner Lemar and ex-nobody Shaznay Lewis be anything but a slurry, unpalatable to the more civilised ears of the Twenties?
Will Robbie Williams, perhaps with his own Des O'Sullivan type chatshow broadcasting to the dark side of the moon, be anything more than the voiceover of naff 90s nostalgia series? Aren't we more likely to listen to Queen and Slade than novelty imitators the Darkness? And Miss Dynamitey-who?
Even now, this is a laughable travesty! It sounds like a bunch of tracks recorded from Australia, Japan and the US on different days and stuck together in London. At best it comes off as a party game, boy-girl-boy-girl taking a line each, identical white "rock" singers alternating with the identical black "R'n'B" voices until the gape-at-your-radio moment when Dizzee Rascal grabs the mic and slurs out something that sounds like a B-boy down my local shop asking for 20 Marlboro and a can of Red Stripe or he batter your face in man and come back with his crew, seen, aight.
I would rather listen to the rattling of a tin for 3 minutes. Actually I would pay a tenner if it guaranteed this record was taken off the market immediately.
I'll donate the money directly.
Oops - wrong forum. Ted d'you think you could move this?
To add to the above, apparently, the British public voted Robbie Williams into the 'Music Hall of Fame' last weekend, what with him being the most iconic act of the 1990s and all.
Sometimes the British public behaves in a way that, were it a dog, would result in it being taken into the garden and shot. Possibly after being beaten senseless with a shovel.
To add to the above, apparently, the British public voted Robbie Williams into the 'Music Hall of Fame' last weekend, what with him being the most iconic act of the 1990s and all.
Sometimes the British public behaves in a way that, were it a dog, would result in it being taken into the garden and shot. Possibly after being beaten senseless with a shovel.
Harry Flashman said:
Will we be able to distinguish the voices -- technically proved to be near-identical -- of the whining goblins who front "Travis", "Coldplay", "Keane" and "Snow Patrol"?
Well said, I hate these tedious over-ernest whining identikindie bands (and the rest you mentioned).
If Band Aid didn't work 20 years ago, its not going to now. And its not because Africa 
ed up with the dollars from last time either. Its not going to work because music doesn't change the world. A bunch of coked-up egotists being coerced into a decent bit of PR by that scruffy self-righteous washed-up git Geldoff (if your kids didn't have names that sounded like Disney characters I might take you a bit more seriously) is not going to sort out the systematic abuse of and within the continent of Africa that has been going on for at least 500 years. The answer to the slave trade, colonialism, apartheid, civil war, famine, natural disaster, economic meltdown, political instability, dictatorships and corruption is for a bunch of rich Brit popstars to wear matching t-shirts and have a sing-a-long? F*ck off.
I'm just grumpy because I've just been fleeced by two of my co-workers collecting for starving spastic children in some tin pot little African country and now I can't afford any lunch.
Will the African children organise a collection for me? Iing doubt it. Anyway, I was told by my liberal parents that if Ididn't eat my meal, Africans would go hungry.
So if I can't afford lunch today, that's more children who will starve in Africa. Really these charity workers should understand that logic.
Doesn't Band Aid 20 make anyone else go
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>> Edited by Harry Flashman on Tuesday 7th December 14:45
ed up with the dollars from last time either. Its not going to work because music doesn't change the world. A bunch of coked-up egotists being coerced into a decent bit of PR by that scruffy self-righteous washed-up git Geldoff (if your kids didn't have names that sounded like Disney characters I might take you a bit more seriously) is not going to sort out the systematic abuse of and within the continent of Africa that has been going on for at least 500 years. The answer to the slave trade, colonialism, apartheid, civil war, famine, natural disaster, economic meltdown, political instability, dictatorships and corruption is for a bunch of rich Brit popstars to wear matching t-shirts and have a sing-a-long? F*ck off. I'm just grumpy because I've just been fleeced by two of my co-workers collecting for starving spastic children in some tin pot little African country and now I can't afford any lunch.
Will the African children organise a collection for me? I
ing doubt it. Anyway, I was told by my liberal parents that if Ididn't eat my meal, Africans would go hungry. So if I can't afford lunch today, that's more children who will starve in Africa. Really these charity workers should understand that logic.
Doesn't Band Aid 20 make anyone else go
? >> Edited by Harry Flashman on Tuesday 7th December 14:45
JonRB said:
I'd rather see each of these pop stars dip into their own pockets and directly donate some cash instead of donating their time "for free" in order to coerce members of the public into donating whilst at the same time giving them all free publicity.
Cynical? Moi?
One of my uncles used to do some accounting for a some well known musicians. The amount they donated was substantial but they preferred it not to be publicised. Apparently a fair few of them do it - not just for tax reasons.
I don't doubt that musicians give generously. Neither do I doubt that it was a good cause - I'm just angry because some tw@ took my lunch money and I'm pretty sure the alcoholic slag is going to raid the plastic bucket and spend my money in the pub anyway.
No, my main objection to Band Aid 20 is that it's a completely rubbish song. The original was, well, original - and a whole load better.
You would have thought that with all that 'talent' they could have written a new song. Hmm?
I know I don't normally rant about things on PH, but I felt that this was my duty.
>> Edited by Harry Flashman on Tuesday 7th December 15:02
No, my main objection to Band Aid 20 is that it's a completely rubbish song. The original was, well, original - and a whole load better.
You would have thought that with all that 'talent' they could have written a new song. Hmm?
I know I don't normally rant about things on PH, but I felt that this was my duty.
>> Edited by Harry Flashman on Tuesday 7th December 15:02
Harry Flashman said:
I don't doubt that musicians give generously. Neither do I doubt that it was a good cause - I'm just angry because some tw@ took my lunch money and I'm pretty sure the alcoholic slag is going to raid the plastic bucket and spend my money in the pub anyway.
No, my main objection to Band Aid 20 is that it's a completely rubbish song. The original was, well, original - and a whole load better.
You would have thought that with all that 'talent' they could have written a new song. Hmm?
I know I don't normally rant about things on PH, but I felt that this was my duty.
Nothing wrong with ranting, but you didn't have to give away your hard earned - especially considering your feelings towards the piece of aural pap they have produced thie time. I tend not to donate money to people waving a donation box in my face, preferring other methods. Any colleagues thinking I'm stingy can take a flying leap for all I care.
bga said:
I don't doubt that musicians give generously. Neither do I doubt that it was a good cause - I'm just angry because some tw@ took my lunch money and I'm pretty sure the alcoholic slag is going to raid the plastic bucket and spend my money in the pub anyway.
No, my main objection to Band Aid 20 is that it's a completely rubbish song. The original was, well, original - and a whole load better.
You would have thought that with all that 'talent' they could have written a new song. Hmm?
I know I don't normally rant about things on PH, but I felt that this was my duty.
Nothing wrong with ranting, but you didn't have to give away your hard earned - especially considering your feelings towards the piece of aural pap they have produced thie time. I tend not to donate money to people waving a donation box in my face, preferring other methods. Any colleagues thinking I'm stingy can take a flying leap for all I care.
True - but I don't like feeling like a stingy sod; and that's how they get you. I don't particularly object to the cause at all. I object to my lack of lunch. And the fact that this travesty of a song is out there, being bought by people.
The thing is, as a group Travis, Keane et al are actually quite good. They have all done the whole "playing infront of 20 people in a pub thing", something the sugababes have never done so why tarnish them all with the same brush.
Travis have a singles CD out and its evidence that Fran Healy is in fact an excellent songwriter, so they are all plod-a-long-a-indie-tunes, big deal. thats what they are, a plod-a-long-a-indie band. what can they do if Geldof asks them to be in it, they say no and they are the biggest shits in history, they say yes and they get a load of abuse.
why not just give a tenner to charity anyway and not listen to the radio, or volunteer to work at a soup kitchen over christmas, or spend the tenner on toys and give them to a childrens hospital?
Travis have a singles CD out and its evidence that Fran Healy is in fact an excellent songwriter, so they are all plod-a-long-a-indie-tunes, big deal. thats what they are, a plod-a-long-a-indie band. what can they do if Geldof asks them to be in it, they say no and they are the biggest shits in history, they say yes and they get a load of abuse.
why not just give a tenner to charity anyway and not listen to the radio, or volunteer to work at a soup kitchen over christmas, or spend the tenner on toys and give them to a childrens hospital?
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