Should Brothels be legalised

Should Brothels be legalised

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john75

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5,303 posts

254 months

Saturday 4th December 2004
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Tommorow BBC Five live is going to be having a progamme on Brothels and I wonder what Pistonheads feel about the legalising of Brothels.

C C

7,905 posts

246 months

Saturday 4th December 2004
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Yes could solve several social problems.
Can’t see any party having the political courage to do it though.

seafarer

1,278 posts

260 months

Saturday 4th December 2004
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It's legal in one county in Nevada, I believe. The trend has obviously not spread across the country as, apparently, most people find the concept offensive. The pro arguments are that it can be a source of taxes and the participants can be forced to undergo testing, hence curbing the spread of diseases.

Personally, I think it's psychologically unhealthy, especially for the women involved, as you might expect it to be for exotic dancers, only worse. How long can someone compartmentalize their actions from their sense of identity, self worth, emotions? I think it would be tough to do.

vixpy1

42,676 posts

271 months

Saturday 4th December 2004
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C C said:
Yes could solve several social problems.
Can’t see any party having the political courage to do it though.


What he said.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

262 months

Saturday 4th December 2004
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vixpy1 said:

C C said:
Yes could solve several social problems.
Can’t see any party having the political courage to do it though.



What he said.


What he said he said....

GavinPearson

5,715 posts

258 months

Monday 6th December 2004
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An emphatic NO.

It may be the oldest 'profession' but it doesn't mean it's morally right, and it certainly isn't good for the control of disease.

If you want to live in a place with no standards or morals I am sure that there are plenty of places on a 'sex tourism' list that would make idea abodes for the scum that have to pay for sex.

Britain should not be on that list, plain and simple.

What's next? Making the place like Morocco?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

262 months

Monday 6th December 2004
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Wow.....

VTEC_DOHC

2,434 posts

252 months

Monday 6th December 2004
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What does it say outside a brothel when they're closed?






























Beat it!

nel

4,797 posts

248 months

Monday 6th December 2004
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Yes.

I believe in Germany and Holland hookers have to be registered, have periodic health checks and pay taxes. Surely this is all logical stuff. In addition, they are almost certainly safer plying their trade in a known location rather than working the street.

And as for the moralist - can't agree. "Immoral" sex is going to take place anyway, so why not control it and make it safer for all concerned? Surely this is better than turning your back on it despite knowing that it isn't going to go away?

GavinPearson

5,715 posts

258 months

Monday 6th December 2004
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nel said:
Yes.

I believe in Germany and Holland hookers have to be registered, have periodic health checks and pay taxes. Surely this is all logical stuff. In addition, they are almost certainly safer plying their trade in a known location rather than working the street.

And as for the moralist - can't agree. "Immoral" sex is going to take place anyway, so why not control it and make it safer for all concerned? Surely this is better than turning your back on it despite knowing that it isn't going to go away?


Why not make cocaine, heroin, ecstacy and cannabis available from Boots then? Purify aerosols so that you can't OD on the fumes. The answer is nobody's going to sanction those because we've already decided that controlled drugs are for Doctors to prescribe and illegal use is unacceptable.

For every legal brothel there will be several illegal ones. Nobody will be able to tell the difference, the advantages will be minimal and it'll be just another reason for a moral decline.

VTEC_DOHC

2,434 posts

252 months

Monday 6th December 2004
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Sorry for going off topic with that joke BTW guys.

My way of thinking is perhaps immature on the whole moral argument of prostitution, but I don't see why it's morally unacceptable? Surely if both parties are consenting then what's morally wrong with it?

Can't say I disagree with prostitution a whole lot, not that I would EVER consider it myslef but there's nowt much wrong with it. Apart from the fact that it can perpetuate disease somewhat. (just contradicted myself, but hey)

Rico

7,916 posts

262 months

Monday 6th December 2004
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GavinPearson said:
It may be the oldest 'profession' but it doesn't mean it's morally right, and it certainly isn't good for the control of disease.


I completely disagree there. If it was legalised it would mean there could be more safeguards in place to make sure disease was not spread so easily as it could be now in the unsolicited world. If someone is desperate for it, they'll get it from somewhere.

I have a similar viewpoint with regard to drugs. Although im not a supporter of their use, there will always be people who wish to use them. Therefore, instead of the government banning them and shunning the adicts, providing a safe, clean place for users would most probably save lives.

ATG

21,361 posts

279 months

Monday 6th December 2004
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Prohibition has a trmendous track record of creating organised crime and stopping victims being able to seek help. There is a demand for prositutes and plenty of women prepared to provide the service whether or not it is legal. Prohibition forces this "business" into the hands of pimps. It drives it underground creating a vicious circle that cuts off prostitues, by all accounts a vulnerable group, from any kind of support.

Decriminalising something does not mean you approve of it. The legal framework should be set up to try to minimise harm, not to send simple-minded moral messages to a perfectly intelligent society that takes its moral guidance from many sources.

If the creation of legal brothels would help undermine the exploitation of vulnerable women by organised criminals, then I'm all in favour.

Alpineandy

1,395 posts

250 months

Monday 6th December 2004
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Rico said:

If it was legalised it would mean there could be more safeguards in place to make sure disease was not spread so easily as it could be now in the unsolicited world. If someone is desperate for it, they'll get it from somewhere.

I have a similar viewpoint with regard to drugs. Although im not a supporter of their use, there will always be people who wish to use them. Therefore, instead of the government banning them and shunning the adicts, providing a safe, clean place for users would most probably save lives.

I agree. If a brothel isn't licensed it has to be closed down with VERY severe penalties for those involved. I understand that it's very beneficial in most countries where it's been tried.

Rico

7,916 posts

262 months

Monday 6th December 2004
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Just a shame the government are so politically correct that they wouldn't ever dare try something like this.

ATG

21,361 posts

279 months

Monday 6th December 2004
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GavinPearson said:
Why not make cocaine, heroin, ecstacy and cannabis available from Boots then?

Good question. Do you think the general public is so stupid that they would queue up to do themselves harm? And if drugs were legalised and for sale through controlled outlets, what would be morally different about taking them rather than getting drunk instead? Seems to me that bad taste and custom get easily confused with morality.

Alpineandy

1,395 posts

250 months

Monday 6th December 2004
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ATG said:

Good question. Do you think the general public is so stupid that they would queue up to do themselves harm?


I must stop smoking....

v8thunder

27,646 posts

265 months

Monday 6th December 2004
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Rico said:

instead of the government banning them and shunning the adicts, providing a safe, clean place for users would most probably save lives.


Or they could do what I've always said - keep them banned but don't shun the addicts - introduce secure rehabilitation.

Drug dealers are the absolute scum of the earth, and so long as there's some kind of market, they can ply their trade. Forcible removal of their assets include, technically, the withdrawal of addicts from their sordid 'circulation'. I'd rather pay to see them definately cured than have my taxes go to some sad state of affairs where people can just carry on as they did before, only this time have the government pay for it.

Too tired to argue my point now, but think about it guys - you know where the government would get the money, eh?

BliarOut

72,857 posts

246 months

Monday 6th December 2004
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Absolutely.

Prostitution has been around since the dawn of time, and it always will be around.

Whether you agree or disagree with it, the current system is unsafe for both the girls and the punters.

I wouldn't worry though, it'll never happen under ths lot, can you ever imagine them saying it's ok to ? Doubtful, it's fun and there's no tax in it

birdbrain

1,564 posts

246 months

Monday 6th December 2004
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Should be legalised. It's the criminalisation of prostitution that causes exploitation and crime within it.