A low drag Etype for lowdrag

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DBSV8

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Roy C

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Thursday 31st March 2011
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I think "Barn Find" is pushing it a bit for an 11 year old car kept in climate-controlled storage.

Valentin

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Thursday 31st March 2011
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A lightweight race car with an AC.... And an especially hideous one as well.

Well, each to their own I think.

lowdrag

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Thursday 31st March 2011
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I'd already seen that one but a few comments:-

The car is a pastiche of a real Lindner/Nocker replica compared to those made by RS Panels at around the same price even today. It has the wrong engine, wrong brakes, it's LHD, it has aircon, it has a bloody CD player, the ignition system is wrong, it has the wrong gearbox, the roof shape is too rounded, two electric fans, wrong carburettors, and I shan't bother to get into the nitty gitty. Oh, and according to the chassis plate it is a 1993 XJ6.

Apart from the above, it is absolutely perfect.

Hooli

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Thursday 31st March 2011
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lowdrag said:
Apart from the above, it is absolutely perfect.
hehe your impressed then? wink

With these feet

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Thursday 31st March 2011
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IIRC only Lynx replicas have the correct windscreen slant - apparently the biggest give-away that its a replica where it keeps the E-type screen. I remember fitting a fuel injected engine (mechanical) built by Rob Beere in one several years ago.

a8hex

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There should be a number of perfect Lindner/Nocker replicas soon.
They've scanned the real one ready to make a few copies.

RDMcG

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a8hex said:
There should be a number of perfect Lindner/Nocker replicas soon.
They've scanned the real one ready to make a few copies.
Yep...I heard that . I doubt if they will go for as little as US$200k though.

a8hex

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RDMcG said:
Yep...I heard that . I doubt if they will go for as little as US$200k though.
Funnily enough I think you might be right there.
I knew I couldn't afford one so I didn't ask him how much.

lowdrag

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Friday 1st April 2011
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Here are two CUT 7 copies together, one far more correct than the other. The one on the left is a Lynx and the other isn't. Note the rounded roof line on the right hand one, and the spots are (you can't see it very well from this angle)chinese-eyed and all wrong. Incidentally, it took years to find out, but the running light on the roof came from a Renault! You can also see a small vent over the driver on the Lynx, a flap that flips up to give cooling to the driver at speed, and that isn't there on the other.


Edited by lowdrag on Friday 1st April 08:47

DBSV8

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Friday 1st April 2011
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is there an update on when the original will finaly be finished and on show ?

lowdrag

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I was talking to Peter Neumark a month ago but he didn't say when. I know they've got the original roof panel back from Lynx last year and that the car was advancing well, so I hope to see it this year. I'll be at CMC in July so I hope to see it then.

lowdrag

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Friday 1st April 2011
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You know what I'm like when you get me going so here's a bit more on lowdrag replicas. Some years back in 2004 I saw this beautiful RS Panels car (Lindner/Nocker one this time, and done properly) at Eagle E-types and tried to buy it but we couldn't agree on price. Henry had it in on commisssion and it had sat there for four years without selling. I thought about it a bit but it was sold when I got back to Henry about it.





However, imagine my delight when a few years later I saw it doing what it was designed for:-



Silverstone 2008

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VetteG

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Friday 1st April 2011
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Lowdrag, the 2 oil cooler at the rear, I'm assuming one is for the dif, but what's the other for, the gearbox?

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lowdrag

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Friday 1st April 2011
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A gearbox cooler I'd have thought would have been at the front, and one can see the two brake cooling ducts sweeping up, not that that has anything to do with it really. I can only surmise that they are both for the diff since they are small in section.

LordBretSinclair

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lowdrag said:
I'd already seen that one but a few comments:-

The car is a pastiche of a real Lindner/Nocker replica compared to those made by RS Panels at around the same price even today. It has the wrong engine, wrong brakes, it's LHD, it has aircon, it has a bloody CD player, the ignition system is wrong, it has the wrong gearbox, the roof shape is too rounded, two electric fans, wrong carburettors, and I shan't bother to get into the nitty gitty. Oh, and according to the chassis plate it is a 1993 XJ6.

Apart from the above, it is absolutely perfect.
pastiche - "an artistic work in a style that imitates that of another work" So is this "pastiche" imitating the "real replica" (whatever that is) or the real thing???

Is it just me that thinks it a bit perverse to discuss and ridicule a copy of a copy?

lowdrag

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Friday 1st April 2011
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Hmm; I seem to remember that at school we were taught the chinese whisper that went like this;-

"Send reinforcements we are going to advance" ended up as "send three and fourpence, we are going to a dance"

If one is going to "replicate" something, then it should be a true copy. If one is going to create something that imitates but is nothing like, then it doesn't replicate. I replicated the 1952 C-type for example. I don't want to get into semantics but there are replicas and there are replicas; A Realm fibreglass C-type is a lookalike, a Lynx D more so but in alloy, but both far from the real thing. My argument about this car is that it really has nothing in common with the real thing except its outline, whereas the RS Panels car (which incidentally when I was interested was considerably cheaper) was an FIA papered copy which races. I think that this car is far from the ethos of a true racer, and perhaps one can argue that point, but at least get the shape right.

LordBretSinclair

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Je comprends, merci