Relaxation of MOT's Vintage cars
Discussion
practical classics magazine this month has a little side note:
"PC has been told that the government is actively exploring the possibility of removing the legal requirement to have an annual MOT test for all cars built before 1965. This follows a decision to scrap MOT requirement on pre-war cars"
I only seen this this morning and have been looking for more info but nobody knows anything for sure.
"PC has been told that the government is actively exploring the possibility of removing the legal requirement to have an annual MOT test for all cars built before 1965. This follows a decision to scrap MOT requirement on pre-war cars"
I only seen this this morning and have been looking for more info but nobody knows anything for sure.
I don't tend to have a problem getting my cars through the MOT. Actually I quite like the annual once over by a professional. If relaxed for pre 1965 vehicles I wonder how many owners would get lazy with their checks? We may see some right old rust buckets and death traps on the roads.
chard said:
I don't tend to have a problem getting my cars through the MOT. Actually I quite like the annual once over by a professional. If relaxed for pre 1965 vehicles I wonder how many owners would get lazy with their checks? We may see some right old rust buckets and death traps on the roads.
Yes, I'd go along with that too.Then some plonker will have an accident and wipe out some poor innocent pedestrian in a classic with no brakes and we'll then see calls for all classics to be banned from the road.
Having an MOT test just seems to be part of be a considerate road user.
Personally I have mine checked over twice a year. Once for the MOT and then again before I take the car out for its annual (more if I'm lucky) play on the track. I wouldn't dream of taking on there without having had a competent "race" engineer give me the all clear. I'd like to think I was quite handy with a spanner back at some earlier point in my life. But I know I don't have the skills to check everything.
Pre 65 seems too young to me. As far as I'm concerned we saw the birth of the modern car in 50s with the likes of the minor etc. I know of many minors and similar that should definately not be on the roads, this will make them a bloody danger to everyone on the roads if this goes through. All vehicles should go through a test of some sorts, maybe a relaxed version of the MOT but only for pre "45 cars IMO.
Just my 2ps worth anyway.
Just my 2ps worth anyway.
I am also very surprised that pre 1965 cars are being considered for exemption of the annual examination. Cannot see this as being an accurate bit of journo' at all. My reading thus far have indicated pre war cars are being considered and discussions are ongoing, and the snippet in my club newsletter pre 1920's cars. Have to wait a little longer it seems for more info' to emerge.
Cannot see it will include up to 1965, far too many cars of the 50'/60's are by then developed to offer power and fast driving with complex mechanicals IMHO.
Cannot see it will include up to 1965, far too many cars of the 50'/60's are by then developed to offer power and fast driving with complex mechanicals IMHO.
All cars should be subject to some kind of test. tomorrow I take my 1932 austin seven special for it's MOT. this will invlolve a few checks just to make sure it is not falling apart. lights petrol leaks etc. we then wait 20 minuets for the MOT time to elapse. don't want to end the test too quickly as the tester may get questioned. there are so many things that it doesn't have. Seat belts windscreen wipers/washers, indicators, doors. so an allowance for a shorter time to do the test in would help.
I also MOT a triumph vitesse and a morris minor, these to have fewer things to test. I like to have them checked by someone else, I might miss something. it is also good to get a decent poke around underneaf. some of the cars you see put in for MOT's are in very poor condition. imagine if someone could own a 1962 jag capable of 100 mph plus, that hadn't seen a spanner for ten years. it doesn't bear thinking about. there will be some. There will also be people getting cars out of lock ups that have not been used for years and taking them on the road.
keep the test after all an MOT is not difficult to pass.
I also MOT a triumph vitesse and a morris minor, these to have fewer things to test. I like to have them checked by someone else, I might miss something. it is also good to get a decent poke around underneaf. some of the cars you see put in for MOT's are in very poor condition. imagine if someone could own a 1962 jag capable of 100 mph plus, that hadn't seen a spanner for ten years. it doesn't bear thinking about. there will be some. There will also be people getting cars out of lock ups that have not been used for years and taking them on the road.
keep the test after all an MOT is not difficult to pass.
Agree with all that ARH has mentioned, I think the problem with MOT tests for our pre war cars is the lack of understanding and knowledge of some garages performing these tests. Whichever way the Government goes on the issues I will continue to have a full safety inspection on my cars each year.
Welshbeef said:
I see the current MOT being too light, tread depth should increase, handbrake efficiency sould increase from the min 16%...
Id want more on safety brakes, tyres, lights.
Every car on the road has to pass without question else it is always a private road you must use it on.
Are you putting forward a private members bill?Id want more on safety brakes, tyres, lights.
Every car on the road has to pass without question else it is always a private road you must use it on.
Taken 2 Vintage cars for MOT in the last few weeks (1917 and 1911). Test was quite short as we had no belts, winscreen, front brakes, doors, indicators, brake lights, sidelights etc. But I still think it needs to be done.
What rules are they going to level on these cars? What if they ban them from motorways, or you can only use them on weekends? Drive onto the continent and in some countries (I've been informed) you need some form of MOT so the cars wouldnt be allowed onto the continent.
Make it simpler but don't remove it.
What rules are they going to level on these cars? What if they ban them from motorways, or you can only use them on weekends? Drive onto the continent and in some countries (I've been informed) you need some form of MOT so the cars wouldnt be allowed onto the continent.
Make it simpler but don't remove it.
What a load of alarmist crap!
Relaxing of MOTs won't kill anyone contrary to the Euro propoganda!
In several states of the USA there are no yearly checks whatsoever and even here in California they only check for emissions compliance. Contrary to popular myth death tolls are not higher here than the UK, infact in most states they're lower. The MOTs primary mission is to pedal the populace into buying characterless new pieces of tin and pedal rampant consumerism.
Folks who own older classics-and I'm talking about the 60s vintage- are more likely to be consciencious in keeping them in good shape. The biggest issue with the Gulag Island which is the UK is the fact that folks who own classics often keep them outside due to lack of space when living in the over priced rabbit hutches Brits are so fond of- so they stay outside and fester.
Relaxing of MOTs won't kill anyone contrary to the Euro propoganda!
In several states of the USA there are no yearly checks whatsoever and even here in California they only check for emissions compliance. Contrary to popular myth death tolls are not higher here than the UK, infact in most states they're lower. The MOTs primary mission is to pedal the populace into buying characterless new pieces of tin and pedal rampant consumerism.
Folks who own older classics-and I'm talking about the 60s vintage- are more likely to be consciencious in keeping them in good shape. The biggest issue with the Gulag Island which is the UK is the fact that folks who own classics often keep them outside due to lack of space when living in the over priced rabbit hutches Brits are so fond of- so they stay outside and fester.
Marquis Rex said:
What a load of alarmist crap!
Relaxing of MOTs won't kill anyone contrary to the Euro propoganda!
I suggest you get your facts right sir. Here in Europe all cars over 25 years old have a five year MOT and ordinary cars every two years from the fourth year on. Yet accident rates are no higher in proportion to the UK. The UK has been pushed for some time to fall into line with most of the rest of Europe (I can't speak for all countries), discussed it a few years back and the alarmists waged war suggesting the death rate would substantially increase etc. etc. Much of this propoganda (for such it was) cane from garages and MOT stations who foresaw a substantial drop in revenue - that's all. I know of one MOT station that was in the process of installing a new bay, and of course in view of the expense they were certainly campaigning against any change in the law.Relaxing of MOTs won't kill anyone contrary to the Euro propoganda!
So, just for once, let's take a leaf out fo the government's book and introduce a "temporary law", just like the 70mph limit. You never know - it might become permanent!
ETA: Oh, and by the way, here in France there was a ban on cars over 25 years old from visiting any department that didn't touch their own without prior consent from the Préfecture of said department, which was readily given but a chore. So when the new rules came out some saw draconian measures like a ban on driving on bank holidays etc. Far from it; the government abolished all restrictions on classic car movement so we can drive where and when we like.
Edited by lowdrag on Friday 22 April 06:32
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