SORN mistake

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stedale

Original Poster:

1,124 posts

271 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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Thought I might share my idiocy on here. Just taxed the midget for the first time since I got it 2 years ago, and was informed that it had been neither Taxed nor SORN for this time period - this is an offence. Oh.

Needless to say it was a series of assumptions that lead me to this. 1. that SORN transferred to the new keeper - it does not. 2. that I would receive a reminder every 12 months as per tax. - not in the case of a non-transferable SORN. Poo.

Expecting an unpleasant letter from the DVLA now.

Hope someone can benefit from my idiocy.


bigblock

778 posts

204 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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Hi there, was it on a sorn when you bought it?

If it was not and it has been untaxed prior to the sorn legislation(1999 I believe) then there is no requirement to have a sorn and your vehicle can remain untaxed and un-sorned with no penalty.

If it was on a sorn or had been taxed after the sorn legislation (1999) then you are unfortunatly liable for a fine from the DVLA.

stedale

Original Poster:

1,124 posts

271 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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bigblock said:
If it was on a sorn or had been taxed after the sorn legislation (1999) then you are unfortunatly liable for a fine from the DVLA.
that one sadly

MadRob6

3,594 posts

226 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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I made the same mistake with my 944. Luckily no letter (yet at least).

Bought another and waiting for the logbook back in the post so I can SORN it ASAP now I know it doesn't transfer.

becker-on-ph

159 posts

204 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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I'm sure I read an article or thread somewhere recently that it had been proved in court that (and it was something like this) the DVLA had no legal right to fine you for not taxing or informing about the vehicle - wish i could remember where i saw it? maybe someone with a better memory will be along soon to either post a link or shoot me down :-)

a8hex

5,830 posts

229 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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becker-on-ph said:
I'm sure I read an article or thread somewhere recently that it had been proved in court that (and it was something like this) the DVLA had no legal right to fine you for not taxing or informing about the vehicle - wish i could remember where i saw it? maybe someone with a better memory will be along soon to either post a link or shoot me down :-)
I think I remember reading about this recently too.

tr7v8

7,279 posts

234 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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SORN doesn't transfer with owners I & a mate were caught out with this. Despite changing ownership by completing V5s etc. The SORN wasn't taken across & you have to do a fresh one. Needless this is something DVLA keep quiet as it is probably a good earner.

Mr E Driver

8,542 posts

190 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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As you have to declare on the SORN where the vehicle is being kept, having bought it and changing where it is kept I would have thought it is obvious that the SORN needs renewing?

evil len

4,410 posts

275 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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Mr E Driver said:
As you have to declare on the SORN where the vehicle is being kept, having bought it and changing where it is kept I would have thought it is obvious that the SORN needs renewing?
If Stedale bought the car and the previous owner said that it was on SORN I can understand the assumption it would just continue ... and if Stedale's never filled in a SORN before (I haven't) how would he know what is on the SORN form ?

interloper

2,747 posts

261 months

Saturday 26th June 2010
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Have a read through of this...

http://www.ppcmag.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&am...

I do hope you can wriggle out of being fined, without having to drag the case through the courts. Good luck anyway.

Rower

1,381 posts

272 months

Saturday 26th June 2010
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I think you will be ok , i had a similar situation but did not realise that declaring Sorn was mandatory. Apart from the usual letter advising me that my tax was due and as the car was off the road i assumed all was well until mentioning this to others who pointed out that I was in breach . I wrote to my local DVLA centre who said it was nothing to do with them and heard nothing more , I then went ahead and taxed it on line and have heard nothing further.

Rower

Ben Hughes

1,937 posts

185 months

Saturday 26th June 2010
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Same thing happened to me when I went to tax the MG in February. I had bought it SORNed in October and didn't realise that it didn't transfer from seller to buyer. Had no fine or anything as of yet...

lowdrag

13,025 posts

219 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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News to me too. But as regards the problems some people seem to have with SORN and fines, I've always found that doing it on line is far better than snail mail. You get an instant response from the DVLA (which I print off and file just in case) and the chance - deep breath - to win a Seat ibiza!

a8hex

5,830 posts

229 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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lowdrag said:
... and the chance - deep breath - to win a Seat ibiza!
Is that the punishment for failing to file on time?

MadRob6

3,594 posts

226 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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They've been doing that Ibiza offer for years now. Has anybody ever won the damn thing?

stedale

Original Poster:

1,124 posts

271 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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Thanks for the reassuring responses. Just hoping I don't hear anything..

Gallen

2,162 posts

261 months

Utterpiffle

831 posts

186 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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MadRob6 said:
They've been doing that Ibiza offer for years now. Has anybody ever won the damn thing?
I've often wondered that myself...