Any ideas what it is?

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vetteheadracer

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8,271 posts

259 months

Sunday 7th February 2010
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Reading C&SC this month I saw in the Lost & Found section someone sent in a pic of a unknown mystery car near Corse & Staunton which is about 5 minutes from my house, so emailed C&SC, they passed my details onto the chap that spotted the car, he kindly phoned me in the week and today I went to take some more pictures.

The car is beyond repair and I suspect has been where it is now partially in a pond for about 40 years. The bodywork is fibreglass, the rear boot has a later handle on it as there was a whole for a circular type lock and it hinged from the rear. The was black but had originally been green, it also had studs for a toneau or hood on the rear deck. The wheels had six studs on the rear and one of the wheels car still be seen albeit almost completely rusted away. The registration on the boot is EKU 16.

I am curious to know what it is / was so here are the pics.












vpr

3,787 posts

244 months

Sunday 7th February 2010
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I'm no expert as I'm sure you will find out.

The wheel looks like the remains of a Standard 8 wheel though I'm not sure if they had 6 studs.

Maybe the car is a kit early kit car??

Huntsman

8,164 posts

256 months

Monday 8th February 2010
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There is a website about specials built in the 1950's, I guess the guy that runs it will be able to help.

http://www.1950sspecials.com/home.htm


mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

261 months

Monday 8th February 2010
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U Boat...

Elderly

3,536 posts

244 months

Monday 8th February 2010
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Huntsman said:
There is a website about specials built in the 1950's,

http://www.1950sspecials.com/home.htm
I can't help the OP but thanks to that website, I've just discovered (after about 44 years yikes)
that I once owned a "MARKHAM-PEASEY" rotate

vetteheadracer

Original Poster:

8,271 posts

259 months

Monday 8th February 2010
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Huntsman said:
There is a website about specials built in the 1950's, I guess the guy that runs it will be able to help.

http://www.1950sspecials.com/home.htm
Thanks for that, it looks most like the Ashley 750

Uncle Fester

3,114 posts

214 months

Monday 8th February 2010
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That registration number was issued between September 1946 and May 1948 in Bradford; since it’s a low number, probably towards the early part of that timeframe.

If you are correct that it is an Ashley 750 then this particular car was probably originally registered as an Austin 7 before being rebodied as an Ashley.

That gives an interesting possibility. The glassfibre might be just ok. Someone may have an Austin 7 with a body beyond repair. Rather than having two classics off the road, that could donate its chassis for this body.

If I were you, I would try and bring the existence of this body to the Austin 7 owner’s fraternity.

AJAX50

418 posts

246 months

Monday 8th February 2010
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It looks like a Ford wheel.

eccles

13,793 posts

228 months

Monday 8th February 2010
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The springs and chassis aren't Austin 7. There were a lot of Ford based specials in those days.

bigblock

778 posts

204 months

Monday 8th February 2010
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The leaf springs, hubs and wheel in the photos may not be related to the bodyshell. If someone dumped a car in the pond they might well have dumped a few other car related bits in there as well.

Probably just to confuse us all 40 years later.scratchchin

Jalopnik

1,271 posts

224 months

Monday 8th February 2010
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AJAX50 said:
It looks like a Ford wheel.
Ford would have been a 5 stud and wider pattern than that. biggrin

Jalopnik

1,271 posts

224 months

Monday 8th February 2010
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eccles said:
The springs and chassis aren't Austin 7. There were a lot of Ford based specials in those days.
True, but the Fords they were based on would have had transverse not parallel springs. biggrin

Uncle Fester

3,114 posts

214 months

Tuesday 9th February 2010
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I'm assuming this is the boot opening from the rear and you opened the bootlid to take the shot.

Looking through the hole in the floor I can see what looks like the flange on the end of the propshaft. Looking further forward it looks like you can see some chassis.

Is there an engine in the chassis that would give a clue?

Are there any signs of propshaft in the chassis dumped seperately?

Two propshafts must mean two vehicles.

bigdavy

1,085 posts

213 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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Well vetteheadracer, any update? you got it recovered to your garage yet?

Like others have mentioned i reckon the body (being fibreglass) may well be saveable.

If it was near me i would have it! smile

kartman24

459 posts

257 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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I would say almost certainly an Ashley 750, have e-mailed Richard Disborow the Ashley registrar with a link to this page, hopefully he will be put it beyond doubt........Martin

kartman24

459 posts

257 months

Thursday 18th February 2010
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I have had an e-mail in from the Ashley registrar which throws the identity up in the air again.....

`It Is not an Ashley 750 or Falcon.
Could be a Markham Peasey or RGS?
Seeing the from would be the clincher.
The wheels are, I suspect early Morris, possible from a van (pre-1939 M10/4) which would tie in with the cart springs.`

Someone drag the poor thing out and give it a loving home, i think it deserves it after that long being in there.......Martin

Skyedriver

18,595 posts

288 months

Thursday 18th February 2010
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I immediately said Falcon as had one for a while - never got it on the road and scrapped it eventually. But I thought that had transverse springs, it was based upon a Popular chassis E93A?

Rob Daniels

1 posts

176 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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I have just been kindly sent the link to this page by Russell Filby who runs the Turner Register. I can confirm that the bodyshell in the pictures is that of a Convair roadster made by Clive and Terry Wrenn of Convair Developements who built these bodies from their Leytonstone premises from late in 1955 until late 1959. The body is very similar to the Ashley 750 and the Falcon Mk1, but the small boot hatch and the shape of the rear wings is very distinctive. I'm sure that when the shell is extracted from the water and the front of the car is revealed the owner can compare it to the pictures on the Convair page of my website.

More infomation on Convair and other fibreglass bodies from this era can be found on my website www.1950sspecials.com

Rob Daniels

Evangelion

7,911 posts

184 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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Rob Daniels said:
More infomation on Convair and other fibreglass bodies from this era can be found on my website www.1950sspecials.com

Rob Daniels
I just clicked on that link and practically shat myself when that bloody horn went off!

BMWChris

2,022 posts

205 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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Be aware...Fibreglass boats often suffer from "osmosis" where water gets into the fibre and casues it to blister. Especially early ones from the 60's that used a different type of fibreglass.

Edited by BMWChris on Thursday 25th February 14:36