The unsung heroes of the automotive world...

The unsung heroes of the automotive world...

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ceriw

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1,117 posts

211 months

Sunday 27th September 2009
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My starter, if anyone cares to follow, would be Mr Rust Heinz who designed the 1938 Phantom Corsair. He died at the age of 25 in a car accident.

I remember seeing this astonishing creation at the Harrah Collection when it was on show in Dusseldorf, Germany. The 500K and the Deusenberg were there too. I was 14, an impressionable age....

Rust clearly lived and died with cars, some might say he relished them? I wonder if there could be a more complete petrolhead?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7...

DickyC

51,312 posts

204 months

Sunday 27th September 2009
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Frank Feeley is my unsung hero. He went to Aston Martin when David Brown acquired Lagonda. Feeley styled the the DB2, DB3 and DB3S. Top bloke.

Trevithick

93 posts

189 months

Sunday 27th September 2009
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Richard Trevithick, he started it all!
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williamp

19,495 posts

279 months

Sunday 27th September 2009
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The person who first developed non-circular headlights. Surely this was the single biggest advance in automotive design.

bertelli_1

2,267 posts

216 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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williamp said:
The person who first developed non-circular headlights. Surely this was the single biggest advance in automotive design.
Curved glass? Allowed car designers to go crazy.

Elderly

3,536 posts

244 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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Frederick Lanchester.

DickyC

51,312 posts

204 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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bertelli_1 said:
Curved glass? Allowed car designers to go crazy.
You're right! The designers might have had curvaceous ideas but couldn't quite render them because of the limitations of flat glass. The split windscreen was as close as they could get.



So, who was Curved Glass Man, unsung hero?

Todzilla

237 posts

181 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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Wasn't Elwood Engel the first to use curved glass for side windows? The 1961 Lincoln Continental being the design in question...

alsaautomotive

684 posts

206 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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Alan Clark, need I say more?smile

woodytype S

691 posts

243 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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Colin Chapman with Giorgetto Giugiaro

Edited by woodytype S on Tuesday 29th September 19:13

HiRich

3,337 posts

268 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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Colin Strang. In 1946 (before John Cooper and Eric Brandon) he put the engine behind the driver, very successfully. With the Auto-Union lessons pre-War already forgotten, Strang effectively started the rear-engined revolution.

Pat H

8,058 posts

262 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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woodytype S said:
Colin Chapman with Giorgetto Giugiaro
Chapman and Giugiaro can hardly be considered as unsung heroes.

Chapman is rightly regarded as an inspired genius and Giugiaro is up there with Farina, Bertone and Gandini.

I would have thought that Hickman, Kirwan Taylor, Frayling and Mike Costin deserve considerably more recognition for their contribution at Lotus Cars than they have ever publicly received.

drink


cazzer

8,883 posts

254 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX8Du9pusdA

Without whom, we'd all be walkin.....
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austin

1,299 posts

209 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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HiRich said:
Colin Strang. In 1946 (before John Cooper and Eric Brandon) he put the engine behind the driver, very successfully. With the Auto-Union lessons pre-War already forgotten, Strang effectively started the rear-engined revolution.
I raise your 1946 & Auto Union and give you a Benz from 1925.


davepoth

29,395 posts

205 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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austin said:
HiRich said:
Colin Strang. In 1946 (before John Cooper and Eric Brandon) he put the engine behind the driver, very successfully. With the Auto-Union lessons pre-War already forgotten, Strang effectively started the rear-engined revolution.
I raise your 1946 & Auto Union and give you a Benz from 1925.

I can beat that with this one:



The 1921 Rumpler Tropfenwagen.

Edited by davepoth on Tuesday 29th September 23:27

austin

1,299 posts

209 months

Wednesday 30th September 2009
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davepoth said:
austin said:
HiRich said:
Colin Strang. In 1946 (before John Cooper and Eric Brandon) he put the engine behind the driver, very successfully. With the Auto-Union lessons pre-War already forgotten, Strang effectively started the rear-engined revolution.
I raise your 1946 & Auto Union and give you a Benz from 1925.

I can beat that with this one:



The 1921 Rumpler Tropfenwagen.

Edited by davepoth on Tuesday 29th September 23:27
Aha, they are both Tropfenwagens, so pretty much the same car.

hugo a gogo

23,379 posts

239 months

Wednesday 30th September 2009
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I'll trump all of that with the first proper car with the engine behind the driver

Benz patent motorwagen, 1885


woodytype S

691 posts

243 months

Wednesday 30th September 2009
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Pat H said:
woodytype S said:
Colin Chapman with Giorgetto Giugiaro
Chapman and Giugiaro can hardly be considered as unsung heroes.

Chapman is rightly regarded as an inspired genius and Giugiaro is up there with Farina, Bertone and Gandini.

I would have thought that Hickman, Kirwan Taylor, Frayling and Mike Costin deserve considerably more recognition for their contribution at Lotus Cars than they have ever publicly received.

drink

I totally agree

RW774

1,042 posts

229 months

Wednesday 30th September 2009
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Bob Knight,
Chain smoking Jaguar chassis designer and eventual chairman. Responsible for C D E Mk1/2 S Mk7/8/9 and all the XK chassis, his last great design was the XJ6/12.
Lofty England.
Jaguar competions and team manager during the 1950s, their most successful at Le mans.
Alan Stacey.
Essex racing driver who, with one leg ! managed to break into the Lotus Racing team in the late 50s, before loosing his life in a freak accident.
Chris Bristow,
london car dealer and Lotus team driver killed at Spa, an astonishingly talented driver, a world champion in the making.
lets not forget....
Trevor Taylor, Cliff Allison, Jack Sears,Ken Wharton, Dennis Poore
Tony Lanfranchi, John Rhodes and John Handley .


Mike Hawthorn, our first world champion who never recieved the credit he deserves.clapclapclap

pennrolls

95 posts

214 months

Wednesday 30th September 2009
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Blatchley designed the Silver Shadow and Cloud, but never got the knighthood awarded to Issigonis or Lyons, despite designing cars equally iconic.