MOT requirements for a 1958 car?

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kartman24

Original Poster:

459 posts

257 months

Friday 10th July 2009
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I`ve got an mot booked for Friday next week for my Fairthorpe, will i need a rear fog light and hazard warning lights?.........Martin

Elderly

3,536 posts

244 months

Friday 10th July 2009
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If your car has them, they have to work.
My 'classic' just passed its MOT last week without hazard warning lights.

b2hbm

1,293 posts

228 months

Saturday 11th July 2009
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Nope, but as Elderly says, if you or a previous owner has fitted them then they'll have to work.

Legislation isn't retrospective, so as long as the car is standard OEM then it'll be ok. At that age I guess you wouldn't even need seat belts as I've a feeling they only came along in the 60s.

My '68 car has never had hazards or fog lights and there's never been an MoT problem. (with them anyway - the handbrake is another tale !)

lowdrag

13,025 posts

219 months

Saturday 11th July 2009
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Same with seat belts. If fitted, they must be up to snuff. If not fitted as per original, less to worry about. My "new" C type hasn't got belts since the original didn't.

Edited by lowdrag on Saturday 11th July 07:50

cazzer

8,883 posts

254 months

Saturday 11th July 2009
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Passed my MOT in my 1958 Plymouth in June.
Tested were...
Brakes, Tyres, Windscreen wipers, Headlights, Indicators, Brake lights, Rear lights, Horn, Steering, suspension componants, visual smoke check.

There is a bit of a gray area over windscreen washers as it's not entirely clear on the wording of if they need to be retrospectively fitted. But I have done anyway and they were tested.

No Fogs, no hazards, no seatbelts, no reversing light etc.

But as one of the posters correctly pointed out, if you or a previous owner has fitted such things in the past, they have to work.

Also as mine is american and of the age stated I can pass with only one rear light on either side that does the job of lights, brake lights and indicators smile

a8hex

5,830 posts

229 months

Saturday 11th July 2009
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My 58 Jaguar also uses the reds for the indicators, it isn't just Yanks that do.

john2443

6,385 posts

217 months

Monday 13th July 2009
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Some legislation is retrospective - windscreen washers need to be fitted to everything back to about 1933 unless you have an opening windscreen or aero screens and seatbelts were backdated to about 1963. I think these are the only things that have been retrospective as you can still have a single brake light and no front brakes if you go back far enough!

Apart from that, IIRC, you need everything that a modern needs except rear fogs, seat belts, indicators, hazards and the 'no significant smoke' emission test.

I put indicators on my 1951 car for safety and wired them to work as hazards as I don't like the idea of being on the back of a queue on a motorway or broken down somewhere and having some tw@t running into the back of me 'cos he didn't realise I'd stopped!

I would try and find a garage that understands the concept of classics and then always go there for the test - some garages may fail it on stuff they shouldn't be testing as they have never seen anything over 15 years old!

Gnostic Ascent

284 posts

245 months

Tuesday 14th July 2009
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As the poster above says find a classic orientated MOT tester. This is not to try and get a hooky MOT but to get someone who understands that your windscreen washer works from a rubber button and finger power not an electric motor so will not put water over the top of the car when it is operated.

austin

1,299 posts

209 months

Tuesday 14th July 2009
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john2443 said:
...as you can still have a single brake light and no front brakes if you go back far enough!
Mine has no brake lights at all, but then saying that the brakes aren't up to much anyway!

chard

27,411 posts

189 months

Saturday 18th July 2009
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The one exception to rule "if fitted must work" is reversing lights. Not part of the test.

Chard

lowdrag

13,025 posts

219 months

Saturday 18th July 2009
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I had a problem every year with the headlights. They are Lucas Le Mans and dip straight ahead, not to the side. Now he doesn't actually look which is just as well perhaps.

garethj

624 posts

203 months

Monday 20th July 2009
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lowdrag said:
I had a problem every year with the headlights. They are Lucas Le Mans and dip straight ahead, not to the side. Now he doesn't actually look which is just as well perhaps.
As long as they don't flicker that's better than most old Lucas headlights wink

a8hex

5,830 posts

229 months

Monday 20th July 2009
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garethj said:
lowdrag said:
I had a problem every year with the headlights. They are Lucas Le Mans and dip straight ahead, not to the side. Now he doesn't actually look which is just as well perhaps.
As long as they don't flicker that's better than most old Lucas headlights wink
You need to ensure that you keep your loom topped up with genuine Lucas wiring smoke. link Third party wiring smoke is known to cause problems with flickering, although it can cure intermittent starting problems.

chard

27,411 posts

189 months

Monday 20th July 2009
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Why do british mechanics drink warm beer??

Because there fridges are powered by Lucas (an American Gagg)

Chard

RichB

52,597 posts

290 months

Monday 20th July 2009
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chard said:
Why do British mechanics drink warm beer??

Because there fridges are powered by Lucas (an American Gagg)

Chard
evidently wink

kartman24

Original Poster:

459 posts

257 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2009
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Many thanks for the reply`s, car now has a MOT........Martin

Baby Huey

4,881 posts

205 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2009
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a8hex said:
garethj said:
lowdrag said:
I had a problem every year with the headlights. They are Lucas Le Mans and dip straight ahead, not to the side. Now he doesn't actually look which is just as well perhaps.
As long as they don't flicker that's better than most old Lucas headlights wink
You need to ensure that you keep your loom topped up with genuine Lucas wiring smoke. link Third party wiring smoke is known to cause problems with flickering, although it can cure intermittent starting problems.
That link is one of the funniest things I have read in ages. Maybe because where I used to live, all the thick kids got jobs at Lucas, or maybe it's hilarious.

jagracer

8,248 posts

242 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2009
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lowdrag said:
Same with seat belts. If fitted, they must be up to snuff. If not fitted as per original, less to worry about. My "new" C type hasn't got belts since the original didn't.

Edited by lowdrag on Saturday 11th July 07:50
What's your new C type registered as and as what year?