Jaguar Mk1 with 27,000 miles from new !

Jaguar Mk1 with 27,000 miles from new !

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dave22

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10 posts

189 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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Brook Classics have discovered another gem. An early 1956 Jaguar Mk1 has been owned by the same family from new and had covered just 27,000 miles in 53 years



www.brook-classics.co.uk

lowdrag

13,025 posts

219 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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I wonder if it costs the same as mine? One owner and 18,000 from new; 3.4 manual overdrive too. All for an extortionate £7K

A service, add a tow bar, and bob's your uncle...........


AJAX50

418 posts

246 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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I was thinking of putting a tow bar on my Mk2 2 to tow a boat, about 1.6 tonnes with the trailer, how does that compare with your D Type and how does it tow?
lowdrag said:
I wonder if it costs the same as mine? One owner and 18,000 from new; 3.4 manual overdrive too. All for an extortionate £7K

A service, add a tow bar, and bob's your uncle...........

lowdrag

13,025 posts

219 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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The D type weighs exactly one ton and the trailer half that. I can cruise at 70mph all day with no problem.

williamp

19,491 posts

279 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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lowdrag said:
Love that photo Lowdrag. Reminds me of Peter Foster, who uses a Bentley Turbo R to trailer his DB4 to race meetings

By the way, how's the restoration progressing? Will it be out and about at Le Mans? I'd love to see it

graeme36s

7,092 posts

223 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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dave22 said:
Brook Classics have discovered another gem. An early 1956 Jaguar Mk1 has been owned by the same family from new and had covered just 27,000 miles in 53 years



www.brook-classics.co.uk
At an asking price of £22995 ONO it does not seem dear to me but only if condition stacks up against mileage. I learnt to drive and took my test in my uncles 1960 mk2 3.4 manual overdrive. How does the mk1 drive in comparison to a mk2 ?. Mind you having not driven one for 30 years I would not trust my memory. But I keep promising to buy one at some point in the future.

lowdrag

13,025 posts

219 months

Saturday 28th March 2009
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Well, some things are better for the waiting I guess. The car won't be ready for Le Mans but will be around for Silverstone in July. That's guaranteed now. The problem is the finishing and then the arduous task of road testing and fettling the car. The bonnet is about finished and they are now making the grille whiich in itself isn't a simple thing either. I am really looking forward to my first drive in this car after all the years of dreaming and planning!

Church of Noise

1,481 posts

243 months

Saturday 28th March 2009
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lowdrag said:
I wonder if it costs the same as mine? One owner and 18,000 from new; 3.4 manual overdrive too. All for an extortionate £7K

A service, add a tow bar, and bob's your uncle...........

I guess that those opportunities are VERY scarce now?

As I'm starting to look for another car, that would actually be a wonderful option...

RW774

1,042 posts

229 months

Monday 30th March 2009
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You must be prepared to accept the 2.4 as a bit of a slug, slow with its solex carbs and A type head. Never the less it was Jaguars` first attempt on the compact market and was a success, despite all the misgivings on the narrow back axle.
Please go and buy, preserve its heritage, patina or whatever you would prefer to call it and enjoy.

graeme36s

7,092 posts

223 months

Monday 30th March 2009
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Thank you for the advice Paul. In the add it says that the 2.4 litre unit was replaced with the larger 3.4 litre engine at 4000 miles. In comparison how did these perform ?.

williamp

19,491 posts

279 months

Monday 30th March 2009
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RW774 said:
You must be prepared to accept the 2.4 as a bit of a slug, slow with its solex carbs and A type head. Never the less it was Jaguars` first attempt on the compact market and was a success, despite all the misgivings on the narrow back axle.
Please go and buy, preserve its heritage, patina or whatever you would prefer to call it and enjoy.
Absolutely. Droive them and enjoy them. As for the 2.4, surely they can be tweaked? Bigger carbs, remove the air filter on top of the engine etc for a bit more oomph?

RW774

1,042 posts

229 months

Tuesday 31st March 2009
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Quite right,they can be tuned well .I have had 200bhp out of one, but you can get 110 easily of the shelf . That will be on drums, which will need a refurb.
DON`T fit discs. Soft linings are the answer.

williamp

19,491 posts

279 months

Tuesday 31st March 2009
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why not Discs???

RW774

1,042 posts

229 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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Drum brakes were good enough to win the 51 le Mans,when correctly overhauled will give a better brake than discs anyday and preserve the cars heritage.
ERA ? Riley ? Bugatti? Sunbeam? Bentley? Hispano S ? all on drums man.

a8hex

5,830 posts

229 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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RW774 said:
Drum brakes were good enough to win the 51 le Mans,when correctly overhauled will give a better brake than discs anyday and preserve the cars heritage.
ERA ? Riley ? Bugatti? Sunbeam? Bentley? Hispano S ? all on drums man.
I'd agree with "preserving" this cars heritage as its made it through 50 years without being buggered about too much.
But ... Drums were good enough to win the 51 Le Mans. Well Drums were all that was available, they were racing against other teams that were also just on Drums. It wasn't a case of the drums being "Good enough" it was that they were no worse than anyone else's drums. By 53 it was clear that the use of far from perfected disc brakes allowed significantly performance and reliability advantage. Look at what MB had to do with that air-brake to try and stand a chance against the Ds at Le Mans.

The Drums in the Mk1 are probably adequate, particularly since it's a 2.4


RW774

1,042 posts

229 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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I have just had a client test an ex JD car on Discs,( their conversion)
His 120 has our overhauled drum brakes. The 120 has toured the Mille Miglia route with now problems whatsoever.
I`m afraid you don`t know what you are talking about

TimCrighton

996 posts

222 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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Interesting comments. When pressing on hard in the Healey (which I realise isn't what you're talking about but its of a similar era) the rear is on drums and they do suffer from heat - whilst the braking performance is not drastically improved through disks the heat loss is vastly improved and the brakes remain far more consistent, surely the same applies in this case? Particularly with fronts?

AJAX50

418 posts

246 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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The Healey does have very big discs and drums and if the set up is in good condition (which I'm sure yours will be coming from JC) they can take a lot of punishment, the car only weighs a tonne. Not sure the is Jag quite so good in standard form.
Drums do have problems getting rid of heat, I remember in the distant past my Mk 1 Sprite with drums and special linings, it was fine, until the brake fluid boiled.
TimCrighton said:
Interesting comments. When pressing on hard in the Healey (which I realise isn't what you're talking about but its of a similar era) the rear is on drums and they do suffer from heat - whilst the braking performance is not drastically improved through disks the heat loss is vastly improved and the brakes remain far more consistent, surely the same applies in this case? Particularly with fronts?

RW774

1,042 posts

229 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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Good point, the XK has a big scoop at the front for cooling.The Mk1 do with the same, that helps, but the material the shoes are made from is vital .

AJAX50

418 posts

246 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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The real problem is that the wheel cylinders are locked away out of the breeze inside the hot drum, not such a problem with cables though!.