A few I have seen on Ebay...

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austin

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1,299 posts

209 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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I am not sure if it is the "economic climate" but it does seem there are a lot of interesting things up for sale at the moment. Lots of "spent more than it's worth" type restorations and projects that never got finished... Surely trying to sell anything like this just before Christmas is financial suicide...

An hour or so on ebay bought up the following;

Not sure why but I have a real soft spot for these old Mercedes Pontons.

I am convinced that a good one of these can only be a good idea if you have somewhere to stash it away, (you wouldn't want to drive it!) It's probably an age thing, most of my friends had one of these as a first car. Low mileage Metro

A proper "barn find", 1934 Lanchester

Stunning 1938 Frazer Nash / BMW

JimmyJCW

17 posts

190 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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Its been said that it will be a good market to invest in in the coming months. Not so good if you're selling one as you said though.

I've always wanted an old pagoda topped 280SL... Theres something about old Mercs.

I bet there will be some bargins out there on fleabay soon

curlie467

7,650 posts

207 months

Monday 15th December 2008
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I love the pagoda tops too. One day maybe.

C. Grimsley

1,366 posts

201 months

Monday 15th December 2008
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Makes me wonder how the metro ever sold, disgusting little car.

Carl C.G. Cars

austin

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1,299 posts

209 months

Sunday 21st December 2008
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austin said:
Not sure why but I have a real soft spot for these old Mercedes Pontons.

I am convinced that a good one of these can only be a good idea if you have somewhere to stash it away, (you wouldn't want to drive it!) It's probably an age thing, most of my friends had one of these as a first car. Low mileage Metro

A proper "barn find", 1934 Lanchester

Stunning 1938 Frazer Nash / BMW
Some final prices...

Mercedes - £1090
Metro - £369 (with 41 bids!)
Lanchester - £1050.99
Frazer Nash / BMW - 0 bids but was on at £45k

Some happy punters out there I guess!

Huntsman

8,161 posts

256 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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curlie467 said:
I love the pagoda tops too. One day maybe.
Me too, my wife wants a Pagoda SL.


a8hex

5,830 posts

229 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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Huntsman said:
curlie467 said:
I love the pagoda tops too. One day maybe.
Me too, my wife wants a Pagoda SL.
Shortly after I bought the XK, the wife was reading one of my car mags I'd left in the bathroom. She came down with couldn't we have one of those... pointing to a 300SL Roadster. I always knew I'd chosen a wife with expensive tastes.

She also fancies an R107 SL, one day perhaps. We actually looked at getting her one of these a few years ago as an everyday car, before we had kids. You could still find them in the Mercedes main dealers sometimes. We were offered a few one owner, amazing low mileage examples that had been to the dealers twice a year since being bought, in the spring to have the hard tops removed and the car serviced, and then in the autumn to for a service and to have the roof put back on.

Huntsman

8,161 posts

256 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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Over the next year or so I think some classic cars might soften in price a bit.

Cheapo stuff like moggies, spits, spridgets etc I think will be little change.

Million quid D types etc I think will hold firm.

But there is middle ground, e types, healey's, AC ace, pagodas etc I reckon might take a hit, in which case I'll jump into a 280 Pagoda. Yay!


3024E

483 posts

191 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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a8hex said:
Huntsman said:
curlie467 said:
I love the pagoda tops too. One day maybe.
Me too, my wife wants a Pagoda SL.
Shortly after I bought the XK, the wife was reading one of my car mags I'd left in the bathroom. She came down with couldn't we have one of those... pointing to a 300SL Roadster. I always knew I'd chosen a wife with expensive tastes.

She also fancies an R107 SL, one day perhaps. We actually looked at getting her one of these a few years ago as an everyday car, before we had kids. You could still find them in the Mercedes main dealers sometimes. We were offered a few one owner, amazing low mileage examples that had been to the dealers twice a year since being bought, in the spring to have the hard tops removed and the car serviced, and then in the autumn to for a service and to have the roof put back on.
Your wife has fantastic taste i had a silver 300SL R107 for 4 years and the best classic car i've ever owned upto now...... i would have another.

Had to get the TVR bit out of my head before i was 40, owned a griffith now for 6 mths the speed is unreal....unfortunatly the build quality isnt,but hey its so fast it makes your teeth bleed

ps i have two young kids 12 and 8..... so get a 300SL R107 with the extra back seats....

a8hex

5,830 posts

229 months

Wednesday 24th December 2008
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3024E said:
a8hex said:
Huntsman said:
curlie467 said:
I love the pagoda tops too. One day maybe.
Me too, my wife wants a Pagoda SL.
Shortly after I bought the XK, the wife was reading one of my car mags I'd left in the bathroom. She came down with couldn't we have one of those... pointing to a 300SL Roadster. I always knew I'd chosen a wife with expensive tastes.

She also fancies an R107 SL, one day perhaps. We actually looked at getting her one of these a few years ago as an everyday car, before we had kids. You could still find them in the Mercedes main dealers sometimes. We were offered a few one owner, amazing low mileage examples that had been to the dealers twice a year since being bought, in the spring to have the hard tops removed and the car serviced, and then in the autumn to for a service and to have the roof put back on.
Your wife has fantastic taste i had a silver 300SL R107 for 4 years and the best classic car i've ever owned upto now...... i would have another.

Had to get the TVR bit out of my head before i was 40, owned a griffith now for 6 mths the speed is unreal....unfortunatly the build quality isnt,but hey its so fast it makes your teeth bleed

ps i have two young kids 12 and 8..... so get a 300SL R107 with the extra back seats....
We also looked at an R129 at one point (before kids). Amusingly the guy from the main dealer in Beaconsfield was saying that the Principles wife had an R107 and wouldn't give it back. Her hubby kept trying to get her to have a new one, driving an old one was deemed bad for business, but she was having none of it and insisted on keeping her older model.

Elderly

3,536 posts

244 months

Wednesday 24th December 2008
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Huntsman said:
Over the next year or so I think some classic cars might soften in price a bit.

Cheapo stuff like moggies, spits, spridgets etc I think will be little change.

Million quid D types etc I think will hold firm.

But there is middle ground, e types, healey's, AC ace, pagodas etc I reckon might take a hit,
I quite agree. The cheap Classics won't change much but as there's a limit to what people will pay for the finished car, there is a danger that if restoration costs rise further, an un-restored "cheapo" car could in theory only have a 'spares' value frown.

The very top end should hold but there will be fewer people chasing them (but it only needs one buyer smile).
Let's not get into what is top end !!!!!!!!

But as you say, it's the middle ground that I think will take the biggest hit; cars that have had their values inflated by genuine desireability (and/or fashion?), yet are not rare.

lowdrag

13,025 posts

219 months

Wednesday 24th December 2008
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Talking of low mileage Mercedes, in 1979 one of my client's bought a new 450SL for his wife's Xmas present. She did 400 miles in it, didn't like it and went back to driving her Vauxhall Shoveit. It then became a stand-off between husband and wife; he wouldn't sell it because it was her's and she didn't want it so there it stayed in the garage, put up on blocks by the gardner/handyman and started once a month. Last I knew in 2003 it was still there with 478 miles on the clock, still awaiting its first service by a Mercedes dealer. Keep your ears to the ground if you live in Northants!

Gas Man

3,598 posts

200 months

Wednesday 24th December 2008
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A friend of mine has spent the last 18 months rebuilding a 230 Pagoda.
1965 and not driven for the last 15 years.
He paid £8k and spent about £26 in total on the rebuild.
The respray was done in Belgium at a speciliast restorer, who just happend to have a collctor live near by.

Yep this collector saw the car and offered £65k for it and for the first time in his life my friend had his sensible head on and took the money and ran!

Mind you he still has a 1980 380SL and a 1990 SL500 to sell!
Why? He wants a Bently now!


3024E

483 posts

191 months

Thursday 25th December 2008
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a8hex said:
3024E said:
a8hex said:
Huntsman said:
curlie467 said:
I love the pagoda tops too. One day maybe.
Me too, my wife wants a Pagoda SL.
Shortly after I bought the XK, the wife was reading one of my car mags I'd left in the bathroom. She came down with couldn't we have one of those... pointing to a 300SL Roadster. I always knew I'd chosen a wife with expensive tastes.

She also fancies an R107 SL, one day perhaps. We actually looked at getting her one of these a few years ago as an everyday car, before we had kids. You could still find them in the Mercedes main dealers sometimes. We were offered a few one owner, amazing low mileage examples that had been to the dealers twice a year since being bought, in the spring to have the hard tops removed and the car serviced, and then in the autumn to for a service and to have the roof put back on.
Your wife has fantastic taste i had a silver 300SL R107 for 4 years and the best classic car i've ever owned upto now...... i would have another.

Had to get the TVR bit out of my head before i was 40, owned a griffith now for 6 mths the speed is unreal....unfortunatly the build quality isnt,but hey its so fast it makes your teeth bleed

ps i have two young kids 12 and 8..... so get a 300SL R107 with the extra back seats....
We also looked at an R129 at one point (before kids). Amusingly the guy from the main dealer in Beaconsfield was saying that the Principles wife had an R107 and wouldn't give it back. Her hubby kept trying to get her to have a new one, driving an old one was deemed bad for business, but she was having none of it and insisted on keeping her older model.
FORGET BUYING A R129................

They are cheaper than r107's what does that tell you?????????

The best models are the facelift models like the one i had the 300,420 and the 500 after 1986 these later models came out with the same floor pans suspention, brakes, alloy engines and ecu management .....
these were the pre production bench test models/chassis for the r129 which was very very clever of mercedes to trial it 3 years before it came out in the r129 body, you drive a 300sl r107, and it drives exactly the same as the 300sl r129

Nowadays all mercs are expensive 'shi7e' i was seriously warned off buying an ML 4x4 for my wife by a Merc dealer so i bought a Toyota Lancdcruiser

a8hex

5,830 posts

229 months

Friday 26th December 2008
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3024E said:
Nowadays all mercs are expensive 'shi7e' i was seriously warned off buying an ML 4x4 for my wife by a Merc dealer so i bought a Toyota Lancdcruiser
Tell me about it laugh

We have a 2001 E-Class estate.
Hardly had to wash it for the first 5 years, they valeted it every time they had to fix something. It's a good thing it comes with a 30year body guarantee coz it's on its 3rd tail gate has had to have the front wings replaces and the two rear doors re-skinned. Thought they were supposed to be galvanised.

3024E

483 posts

191 months

Friday 26th December 2008
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We've had the landcruiser 5 years now also from new, i live on a private dirt road and the yoto's never had paint, or anything come to mention it !!!!!!!! (done 84k miles)

Also hows this..........


With it being 5 yrs old i had the timing belt done by toyota a few Weeks ago at the main dealer using dealer parts inc vat and labour.............???????


£170 ALL IN.

LAST MAIN 80K SERVICE.............£240

My mate bought a new merc 320 E cdi class and did that collection factory tour thingy.....it broke down on the way home.

Hooli

32,278 posts

206 months

Friday 26th December 2008
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3024E said:
My mate bought a new merc 320 E cdi class and did that collection factory tour thingy.....it broke down on the way home.
it was probably too homesick to leave again hehe

3024E

483 posts

191 months

Saturday 27th December 2008
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Hooli said:
3024E said:
My mate bought a new merc 320 E cdi class and did that collection factory tour thingy.....it broke down on the way home.
it was probably too homesick to leave again hehe
.........maybe, But wasnt as sick as my mate !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!