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crankedup

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25,764 posts

249 months

Sunday 30th July 2006
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Yes you can always rely upon me to pose yet another little problem. This time its my Morris 'Bullnose' which I have now started to enjoy. Noticed tho that if cruising along and then lift off throttle reapply same quickly I hear a distinct dull clonk noise from underneath. My fear is that it could be a universal joint in the prop' shaft, in which case it looks like I'm off the road before almost on it. Also the battery has run itself flat so I have to work out if its just a duff battery or the dynamo at fault. I'm finding all those hidden faults the previous owner kept quite about

Pigeon

18,535 posts

252 months

Sunday 30th July 2006
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Could well be a UJ, but UJs are easy (unless, I suppose, you've got a special problem getting old parts or something).

jith

2,752 posts

221 months

Monday 31st July 2006
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crankedup said:
Yes you can always rely upon me to pose yet another little problem. This time its my Morris 'Bullnose' which I have now started to enjoy. Noticed tho that if cruising along and then lift off throttle reapply same quickly I hear a distinct dull clonk noise from underneath. My fear is that it could be a universal joint in the prop' shaft, in which case it looks like I'm off the road before almost on it. Also the battery has run itself flat so I have to work out if its just a duff battery or the dynamo at fault. I'm finding all those hidden faults the previous owner kept quite about


Crankedup, I think you need a resident engineer with that Bullnose of yours!!
The prop joints will definitely be manufactured to Imperial sizes and might be a problem to source, owners club is probably the best bet.
DO NOT drive the car until you check this out: I have seen what happens when a u/j fails and the shaft comes through the floor, or the front comes down and pole vaults your vehicle onto the pavement!!
The Bullnose will almost certainly have a Salisbury axle that had two common failings, the first being that the nut holding the input flange on the front of the pinion shaft simply comes loose and clunks on the shaft spline and if not tightened up will eventually strip the spline, or the planet gears wear in the diff casing causing huge amounts of backlash.
You can get away with this for a while but they too will eventually fail, usually breaking up and ruining the diff.
Both these faults will give you the clunk you describe.
The fault with the pinion shaft can also develop on the gearbox output flange so check that as well.
Hopefully it's a u/j and they are available.

crankedup

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25,764 posts

249 months

Monday 31st July 2006
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Thanks guys for info, they were such a pleasant elderly couple whom I purchased from too, low life lying skunks is what I think now

Still buyer beware and all that. Think I will book it in at David Wall of Wroxham as this could well be that sort of problem.

Strange how so many faults can be obscured for the unwary. Thank goodness I was able to knock down the price to a bargain leaving me with some money to fix up.

eccles

13,789 posts

228 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2006
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out of intrest, are they the fabric type of UJ on your bullnose?

crankedup

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249 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2006
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I think that they are fabric, but I have a fair amount of learning to do on this car. I shall know for sure after David Wall has removed the torque tube. I managed to free up the lubrication nipples to the kingpins (except the upper offside one)and inject some oil into them. All the oil points had been lubed with grease which had since hardened, hence I have found a fair few problems resulting from this. I fear the steering box has not been lubed and have found that the steering column head mast thrust bearing is shot as a result (no wonder the poor old girl had trouble steering).

I met another 'Bullnose' owner recently and discussed lube of the car with him, to my surprise he also advocated the use of grease instead of oil. The only thought I have is that a very very low melting point grease must be available??

The dynamo do'es not seem to be working either hopefully this will be a matter of simply cleaning and adjustments. I now know what is meant by re-commision after lengthy off road storage.

eccles

13,789 posts

228 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2006
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on my dad's singer 9 the original spec was a very thick gear oil for the steering box, over the last 20 or so years he's been using a runny grease, about the same consistancy as thick honey,the benefit of this was unlike the original spec oil, it didn't ooze out over time. this has proved to be ideal, and quite a few people in the club now use it.
i also used this grease in steering box of my pre war minor (bishops cam type of steering box.), although i sold the car before i had chance to use it on the road, the steering was great driving the chassis around the yard near my lock up.

crankedup

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Wednesday 2nd August 2006
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Thats interesting Eccles, I'm going to do a Google and see what grease are available. The 'liquid honey' consistency would be ideal.