It was 40 years ago .... next year
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Astoundingly, to me at any rate, we are nearly into 2006 and heading towards the start of another season of Bernie's Formula One Bonanza.
With Mad Max and the FIA always discussing how to keep costs own it occurred to me that many of the recently posted photos from yesteryear might give us a clue.
No swanky garages back then - lucky to get gravel in the paddock area.
Cars looked simple and un-bewinged. Many of them could almost be seen as pretty - the Lotus's of the early and mid 60's were often described that way as I recall. Few others were quite as attractive, and a few were simply ugly, but by and large a grid would look quite pleasant.
And then there was circuit preparation. Natural safety measures were employed rather than the apparent modern trend to move the paying audience further and further back to provide run-off areas, then gravel traps and then to fill the traps and make them huge areas of tarmac or concrete.
None of that was necessary back in the old days - as this shot from Brands Hatch in 1966 shows.
I think the natural barrier of, presumably, stinging nettles provides some interesting ideas for possible application in the modern age, though I suppose multi-layer overalls and full face helmets lessen the effect that leaving the circuit and landing in a nettlebed might have offered.
I have a few more shots in preparation which I hope to be in a postition to post in the next few days ... if anyone is interested.
With Mad Max and the FIA always discussing how to keep costs own it occurred to me that many of the recently posted photos from yesteryear might give us a clue.
No swanky garages back then - lucky to get gravel in the paddock area.
Cars looked simple and un-bewinged. Many of them could almost be seen as pretty - the Lotus's of the early and mid 60's were often described that way as I recall. Few others were quite as attractive, and a few were simply ugly, but by and large a grid would look quite pleasant.
And then there was circuit preparation. Natural safety measures were employed rather than the apparent modern trend to move the paying audience further and further back to provide run-off areas, then gravel traps and then to fill the traps and make them huge areas of tarmac or concrete.
None of that was necessary back in the old days - as this shot from Brands Hatch in 1966 shows.
I think the natural barrier of, presumably, stinging nettles provides some interesting ideas for possible application in the modern age, though I suppose multi-layer overalls and full face helmets lessen the effect that leaving the circuit and landing in a nettlebed might have offered.
I have a few more shots in preparation which I hope to be in a postition to post in the next few days ... if anyone is interested.
I agree completely. I raced a Lotus 20, Brabham FJ 3 62, which was the oldest Brabham still in existence at the time, & a hybrid Brabham Aus F1, which Jack built for the 1966 Australian GP in
1966. It was an up dated 66 F1, with a 2.5L version of the Repco V8. They were all attractive, pure cars, with nothing contrived.
The racing was much better, when they could race nose to tail only inches apart, for lap after lap.
On one incredible occasion, I held onto the three top F1s in Aus for three laps, at the start of a race, in the 1100cc FJ Brabham.
The 3 were so close to gether that they towed me up to 158 MPH,[normal speed 132 MPH], & the hole they generated in the air, meant I was keeping up to them, on half throttle right around the track. Once they separated by a couple of lengths I was back to mormal speed.
It could not happen today, as the F1s could not run that close.
I suppose the modern cars are better, the way they can break rite into the apex, where we had to be on throttle at peal off, but they have lost the "racing" of the old cars, & boy, they arn't pretty.
Hasbeen.
1966. It was an up dated 66 F1, with a 2.5L version of the Repco V8. They were all attractive, pure cars, with nothing contrived.
The racing was much better, when they could race nose to tail only inches apart, for lap after lap.
On one incredible occasion, I held onto the three top F1s in Aus for three laps, at the start of a race, in the 1100cc FJ Brabham.
The 3 were so close to gether that they towed me up to 158 MPH,[normal speed 132 MPH], & the hole they generated in the air, meant I was keeping up to them, on half throttle right around the track. Once they separated by a couple of lengths I was back to mormal speed.
It could not happen today, as the F1s could not run that close.
I suppose the modern cars are better, the way they can break rite into the apex, where we had to be on throttle at peal off, but they have lost the "racing" of the old cars, & boy, they arn't pretty.
Hasbeen.
As promised a few more shots from the GP.
Mr. Clark, the picture showing a wider view of the circuit (from South Bank iirc) and the typical size of the cars on the negatives.
The enlarged Mr. Clark from the shot above.
A young Mr J. Y. Stewart in quite an attractive BRM. Must have been quite early in the race as his engine failed after 17 laps I believe.
A rather unsharp Mr. Brabham
Herr Rindt once again, this time taken from a negative rather than a print.
A Mr. Gurney I believe, in a non-British Eagle. Very early in the race - he suffered engine failure after 9 laps.
Bob Bondurant chasing Jo Bonnier.
A general view with (I think) G. Hill leading J. Clark and John Taylor
Mr. B. McLaren - a picture previously published in another thread but this time taken from the negative rather than the print.
Mr. Christopher Lawrence in a Ferrari engined Cooper Car - which perhaps made up a little for the absence of the Italian marque on the day.
Mr. E. Heath cruising round as the guest of honour.
A general shot from the back of the circuit somewhere. Some people were introduced to motor sport at and early age - probably a PHer now just about ready to turn 40 ... any claimants?
Saloons, mainly large American ones, from the supporting saloon race will follow in the next day or so, all being well.
>> Edited by LongQ on Thursday 22 December 01:21
Mr. Clark, the picture showing a wider view of the circuit (from South Bank iirc) and the typical size of the cars on the negatives.
The enlarged Mr. Clark from the shot above.
A young Mr J. Y. Stewart in quite an attractive BRM. Must have been quite early in the race as his engine failed after 17 laps I believe.
A rather unsharp Mr. Brabham
Herr Rindt once again, this time taken from a negative rather than a print.
A Mr. Gurney I believe, in a non-British Eagle. Very early in the race - he suffered engine failure after 9 laps.
Bob Bondurant chasing Jo Bonnier.
A general view with (I think) G. Hill leading J. Clark and John Taylor
Mr. B. McLaren - a picture previously published in another thread but this time taken from the negative rather than the print.
Mr. Christopher Lawrence in a Ferrari engined Cooper Car - which perhaps made up a little for the absence of the Italian marque on the day.
Mr. E. Heath cruising round as the guest of honour.
A general shot from the back of the circuit somewhere. Some people were introduced to motor sport at and early age - probably a PHer now just about ready to turn 40 ... any claimants?
Saloons, mainly large American ones, from the supporting saloon race will follow in the next day or so, all being well.
>> Edited by LongQ on Thursday 22 December 01:21
Hasbeen said:
I'll see what I can do. My youngest daughter might be able to do it for me. I may have been able to drive a racing car, back in the 60s, but I have never learned much about driving one of these things.
Thanks Hasbean , any info on the Lotus 20 would be great,and i would be interested in any specs you have of the car you drove
I am still getting used to the sequential box in mine ,theres a photo in my profile
thanks and merry christmas
DBS
DBSV8, I would never have thought of converting a Lotus 20 to a road car, but I think its a wonderful idea. I think a very tall arial, with a big fox tail may be a good move before you venture onto the motor way. I refused to race mine in handicap races, with big front engined cars, as they could not see the thing in their mirrors.
What I remember is
Wheels, look like yours; 4.5" front & 5" rear.
Gearbox; 4 speed, & reverse Hewland, VW based.
Engine; 105E Ford Anglia bored to 95mm giving 1098cc.
Hepoilte pistons, with ford crank, & rods, red line 8000 RPM
Cosworth A6 cam & geniun cosworth head. Wet sump.
Twin 40 DCOE webbers.
Compression ratio 10.25/1. Idle speed, 1200 RPM.
Lucas points ignition. We carried 2 Disy's as the bushes
wore so quickly we had to replace the disy after practice.
Power 93 BHP at 7200 RPM. It had more at around 8000 RPM
but we tuned it there to get best power out of corners.
Weight, 925 LBS, DRY.
The engine in the Brabham, with all steel bottom end, & a better head, gave 113 BHP at 7200 RPM. It was dry sumped, it had the same carbs, & cam, but had bigger chokes & jetting. It idled at 1300 RPM.
The 20 was a magic thing. I came to it from a Morgan plus4, & the handling was a revelation. It was the first car I drove which could be "drifted". What I had thought was drifting, had just been sliding. They were however quite vicious if you stuffed up.
Quite a few blokes who moved into them, just could not handle them, & would trundle around 5 seconds off the pace, spinning off all over the place.
The Brabham was 7 seconds quicker on our top track, & much kinder, & more forgiving.
I think the Lotus could have been almost as quick as the Brabham, with the same wheels tyres & engine, 5 speed box etc, but the blokes who did upgrade them, found they tore them appart with the extra stress.
Thats about all I can remember now, it was 1965 after all.
LongQ, thank you, you have made my Christmas.
Hasbeen
>> Edited by Hasbeen on Thursday 22 December 07:41
What I remember is
Wheels, look like yours; 4.5" front & 5" rear.
Gearbox; 4 speed, & reverse Hewland, VW based.
Engine; 105E Ford Anglia bored to 95mm giving 1098cc.
Hepoilte pistons, with ford crank, & rods, red line 8000 RPM
Cosworth A6 cam & geniun cosworth head. Wet sump.
Twin 40 DCOE webbers.
Compression ratio 10.25/1. Idle speed, 1200 RPM.
Lucas points ignition. We carried 2 Disy's as the bushes
wore so quickly we had to replace the disy after practice.
Power 93 BHP at 7200 RPM. It had more at around 8000 RPM
but we tuned it there to get best power out of corners.
Weight, 925 LBS, DRY.
The engine in the Brabham, with all steel bottom end, & a better head, gave 113 BHP at 7200 RPM. It was dry sumped, it had the same carbs, & cam, but had bigger chokes & jetting. It idled at 1300 RPM.
The 20 was a magic thing. I came to it from a Morgan plus4, & the handling was a revelation. It was the first car I drove which could be "drifted". What I had thought was drifting, had just been sliding. They were however quite vicious if you stuffed up.
Quite a few blokes who moved into them, just could not handle them, & would trundle around 5 seconds off the pace, spinning off all over the place.
The Brabham was 7 seconds quicker on our top track, & much kinder, & more forgiving.
I think the Lotus could have been almost as quick as the Brabham, with the same wheels tyres & engine, 5 speed box etc, but the blokes who did upgrade them, found they tore them appart with the extra stress.
Thats about all I can remember now, it was 1965 after all.
LongQ, thank you, you have made my Christmas.
Hasbeen
>> Edited by Hasbeen on Thursday 22 December 07:41
Hasbeen,
Glad you liked the photos - did you see the earlier thread as well?
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=219868&f=140&h=0&p=1
If you did did you check the links to the NZ Grand Prix history site mentioned? That historic record also covers Australian races where the events were run as part of the Tasman championship and reports well into the 70's - the Rothman's series for example.
Great photos and highly readable reports of the meetings.
Perhaps you already know about that site?
I have to say that I am most impressed with your ability to remember the spec of your 20 and your Brabham. I can't even remember taking the photos ... in fact I can't even remember if this was a personal or a school organised trip.
I can remember my last trip to Brands Hatch. To my shame it was all the way back in 1974 when Jody Scheckter won the GP. Sadly no photos of that meeting.
Glad you liked the photos - did you see the earlier thread as well?
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=219868&f=140&h=0&p=1
If you did did you check the links to the NZ Grand Prix history site mentioned? That historic record also covers Australian races where the events were run as part of the Tasman championship and reports well into the 70's - the Rothman's series for example.
Great photos and highly readable reports of the meetings.
Perhaps you already know about that site?
I have to say that I am most impressed with your ability to remember the spec of your 20 and your Brabham. I can't even remember taking the photos ... in fact I can't even remember if this was a personal or a school organised trip.
I can remember my last trip to Brands Hatch. To my shame it was all the way back in 1974 when Jody Scheckter won the GP. Sadly no photos of that meeting.
LongQ, excellent pictures once again, thanks for sharing. I'm sure I was born too late y'know (1970). All these threads featuring '60s and '70s pictures look fantastic; it's a shame I wasn't there for real. BTW, your two 'general' shots in the ensemble above were taken at Hawthorns and Westfield. 
I am currently going through my collection of 'old' pictures (mid to late '80s) with a view to scanning and posting some up soon. It's good fun seeing pictures of the turbo F1 cars of Mansell, Prost, Senna etc without any debris fencing in the way!!
I am currently going through my collection of 'old' pictures (mid to late '80s) with a view to scanning and posting some up soon. It's good fun seeing pictures of the turbo F1 cars of Mansell, Prost, Senna etc without any debris fencing in the way!!
Thank you all for your kind comments about the photos.
I must say the ones I have found the negatives for seem much better, in terms of sharpness and detail, than I recall from the prints we did back then. Maybe my father's enlarger, lens and choice of paper were not optimal! He would have enjoyed all the recent technological advances I am sure.
Given that these shots were all taken with what would have been a fairly 'standard' lens - no telephoto's of note in the family kitbag back then - and that the cameras we had (not sure which would have been used) did not offer very fast shutter speeds as far as I remember, I am quite surprised at how well they originally came out considering how much they have been enlarged to get them to the size you see on screen. I'm beginning to regret getting around to selling off the old kit (for very little value of course) last year. The only disadvantage would seem to be that of dealing with rolls of film rather than cassettes of film. Unless a lot of negatives were discarded at some point (possible I guess) or have been filed separately, there is hardly a missed shot in any of the frames I have found. Much better than I can achieve these days even shooting track days. Maybe the cars were a lot slower!!
And thanks for the names Trackside. I was wondering of any of those changed over the years - I seem to recall there was a mass re-naming of sections of Brands back in the 70's or 80's. Whilst I have quite a good memory for the names of the bends remembering which bend or section of track a name is associated with is another matter. I live next to Donington Park and have been a frequent visitor but some of the more subtle curves may have names I just don't register at all! (Redgate is always easy because of the pub!)
Keep an eye on this thread - I'll try to get the saloons posted soon as promised. (Some sort of annual event seems to be encroaching on my photo prepping time ... )
I must say the ones I have found the negatives for seem much better, in terms of sharpness and detail, than I recall from the prints we did back then. Maybe my father's enlarger, lens and choice of paper were not optimal! He would have enjoyed all the recent technological advances I am sure.
Given that these shots were all taken with what would have been a fairly 'standard' lens - no telephoto's of note in the family kitbag back then - and that the cameras we had (not sure which would have been used) did not offer very fast shutter speeds as far as I remember, I am quite surprised at how well they originally came out considering how much they have been enlarged to get them to the size you see on screen. I'm beginning to regret getting around to selling off the old kit (for very little value of course) last year. The only disadvantage would seem to be that of dealing with rolls of film rather than cassettes of film. Unless a lot of negatives were discarded at some point (possible I guess) or have been filed separately, there is hardly a missed shot in any of the frames I have found. Much better than I can achieve these days even shooting track days. Maybe the cars were a lot slower!!
And thanks for the names Trackside. I was wondering of any of those changed over the years - I seem to recall there was a mass re-naming of sections of Brands back in the 70's or 80's. Whilst I have quite a good memory for the names of the bends remembering which bend or section of track a name is associated with is another matter. I live next to Donington Park and have been a frequent visitor but some of the more subtle curves may have names I just don't register at all! (Redgate is always easy because of the pub!)
Keep an eye on this thread - I'll try to get the saloons posted soon as promised. (Some sort of annual event seems to be encroaching on my photo prepping time ... )
I now desperately need that classic racing pictures book!
[url]www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=140&t=226113[/url]
Dinkel, when do we start?
[url]www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=140&t=226113[/url]
Dinkel, when do we start?
Please sent on cd / dvd and I'll start up Quark. About 2000 to 3000 px wide wil'll be fine. LongQ said:Thanks also from me for the fantastic pictures. They are just a little early for me to have been there, but if you have any from the early seventies at Brands Hatch that would be great.
Keep an eye on this thread - I'll try to get the saloons posted soon as promised. (Some sort of annual event seems to be encroaching on my photo prepping time ... )
Ahh, many happy memories of watching the Super Saloons being peddled in most entertaining style by Nick Whiting, Gerry Marshall et al. 
Just got the shots of the saloons processed to what I hope is a reasonable standard, so here we go ...
Large and little.
Large.
Enormous.
Huge.
The Europeans in pursuit. (Note the Cortina in the background - the only one I seem to have of a Cortina for some reason.
)
And finally one of my favourite memories from that meeting. It was truly strange to see the Galaxies and Falcons and Mustangs competing with the Cortina's. Anglias, Imps and Mini's. But not quite as strange as seeing this little wonder with what must be the original whale-tail wing - though apparently the engine cover had to be left open for engine heat management requirements. It looked like a bit of an afterthought propped open with a stick - but that might have been wishful thinking on my part!
There are a few other photos (which is why it has taken this long to find the time to process and post these) but they are pretty much duplicates or the original full frame shots from which the pics above have been taken. I didn't think the full frames would be very interesting once compressed for the web ( The 'Europeans' shot above is an example of almost full frame) but I could post them if you feel the bandwidth would be justified.
Hope you enjoy them and have a great and happy 'Holiday' as I believe Christmas is to be called this year. (I really don't understand why so many people are down on paganism these days ...)
Large and little.
Large.
Enormous.
Huge.
The Europeans in pursuit. (Note the Cortina in the background - the only one I seem to have of a Cortina for some reason.
) And finally one of my favourite memories from that meeting. It was truly strange to see the Galaxies and Falcons and Mustangs competing with the Cortina's. Anglias, Imps and Mini's. But not quite as strange as seeing this little wonder with what must be the original whale-tail wing - though apparently the engine cover had to be left open for engine heat management requirements. It looked like a bit of an afterthought propped open with a stick - but that might have been wishful thinking on my part!
There are a few other photos (which is why it has taken this long to find the time to process and post these) but they are pretty much duplicates or the original full frame shots from which the pics above have been taken. I didn't think the full frames would be very interesting once compressed for the web ( The 'Europeans' shot above is an example of almost full frame) but I could post them if you feel the bandwidth would be justified.
Hope you enjoy them and have a great and happy 'Holiday' as I believe Christmas is to be called this year. (I really don't understand why so many people are down on paganism these days ...)
Just got the shots of the saloons processed to what I hope is a reasonable standard, so here we go ...
Large and little.
Large.
Enormous.
Huge.
The Europeans in pursuit. (Note the Cortina in the background - the only one I seem to have of a Cortina for some reason. )
And finally one of my favourite memories from that meeting. It was truly strange to see the Galaxies and Falcons and Mustangs competing with the Cortina's. Anglias, Imps and Mini's. But not quite as strange as seeing this little wonder with what must be the original whale-tail wing - though apparently the engine cover had to be left open for engine heat management requirements. It looked like a bit of an afterthought propped open with a stick - but that might have been wishful thinking on my part!
There are a few other photos (which is why it has taken this long to find the time to process and post these) but they are pretty much duplicates or the original full frame shots from which the pics above have been taken. I didn't think the full frames would be very interesting once compressed for the web ( The 'Europeans' shot above is an example of almost full frame) but I could post them if you feel the bandwidth would be justified.
Hope you enjoy them and have a great and happy 'Holiday' as I believe Christmas is to be called this year. (I really don't understand why so many people are down on paganism these days ...)
Large and little.
Large.
Enormous.
Huge.
The Europeans in pursuit. (Note the Cortina in the background - the only one I seem to have of a Cortina for some reason.
) And finally one of my favourite memories from that meeting. It was truly strange to see the Galaxies and Falcons and Mustangs competing with the Cortina's. Anglias, Imps and Mini's. But not quite as strange as seeing this little wonder with what must be the original whale-tail wing - though apparently the engine cover had to be left open for engine heat management requirements. It looked like a bit of an afterthought propped open with a stick - but that might have been wishful thinking on my part!
There are a few other photos (which is why it has taken this long to find the time to process and post these) but they are pretty much duplicates or the original full frame shots from which the pics above have been taken. I didn't think the full frames would be very interesting once compressed for the web ( The 'Europeans' shot above is an example of almost full frame) but I could post them if you feel the bandwidth would be justified.
Hope you enjoy them and have a great and happy 'Holiday' as I believe Christmas is to be called this year. (I really don't understand why so many people are down on paganism these days ...)
dinkel said:
Funny to see those little FIATs and Minis buzzing around those big Yanks. Had the same sight in the 80s at historic races then. Finish on the straight, the big guys always got the gold . . . Great pics.
Thanks dinkel.
I went to the Silverstone Classic meeting back in the summer and thoroughly enjoyed a very similar mix of cars in the saloons, though sadly no FIAT's.
The Mini's struggled a bit out on the full Silverstone GP circuit but the big boys didn't have it all their own way and were seriously affected by tyre and brake wear over an 18 lap (42 minute) race. Won by a BMW 2000 but the first Mini was 8th, only 55 seconds behind.
los angeles said:
Great thread, LongQ. I was not yet in long trousers but I recall those days and those cars with affection: all racing skill, few electronic aids, unless you count ear plugs for drivers as aids.
Hi LA and thanks.
One thing that struck me from the pics is the lack of even basic safety stuff like roll cages. I assume there was something there if only because they could be used to stiffen the chassis but whatever it was it certainly isn't obvious.
As I remember the big Yank stuff was only just appearing in numbers in the UK and there were stories doing the rounds about cars being bought on the streets in the USA, driven onto a ship, off this end and straight to the circuit to hit the track.
To be quite honest it would not surprise me one bit if the stories were found to be true!
As the 'C' words seems to have been banned in the UK this year may I wish you 'Happy Holidays' in return. Now I must go and wrap some presents ...
The Lotus 20, & the 2 Brabhams, had just a roll hoop, out of light 1" pipe, that was strictly for show. A mate of mine was killed when he turned his over, by hitting another wreck, on a very slow corner. He was doing less than 50 MPH when he did a slow barrel roll over the other cars sagging wheel.
The roll bar was bent flat, & his neck was broken.
None of the cars had seat belts, & the consensus of driver opinion was, that we were better off falling out, rather than staying in the things, in a big shunt. These cars folded up fairly easily, often wrapping around the drivers feet legs,
trapping him in the mess. Often with fuel every where.
Both the 20, & the FJ brabham had the fuel tank as the seat.
The F1 Brabham, had pannier tanks, which formed the side body work, & fitted around, & through the chassis tubes, to give a more or less smooth inner body work. They had recesses for the pipes, which carried the hot water & oil forward to the radiators in the nose. It was a hot office.
The pannier tanks held 10 gallons each, & it had a seat fuel tank which held 7 gallons. The seat tanks were made to fit the driver, & then padded. For my first drive of the F1, we had a cut down kitchen chair inserted into the seat tank, as I could not reach the peddles from Jack's seat.
The only safty consideration was for spectators, & there was not too much of that. I can remember times when the only thing between them & me was a barb wire fence. It was not much different to the World Rally Championship today.
The pits were on the side of the track, infront of the pit counter, not behind, so you came up to the pits, at full speed, jamed on the skids, & slid into your {or someone else's]pit.
There were no "safty" cars. Flags were showen as follows.
Yellow, still; Shunt ahead.
Yellow, waved: Shunt. Car, or marshals partially on track.
Double yellow: Track partially or fully blocked.
White, still; Service vehicle, Ambulence, or Tow truck on track.
White, Waved furiously; As above, BLO*DY close ahead.
They did not remove wrecks, unless on the bitumen. I remember a rolled car, sitting 30 Ft off the exit of a 125 MPH corner for
11.75 hours of one 12 hour race. We were expected to, & mostly did, make allowances for such things.
The roll bar was bent flat, & his neck was broken.
None of the cars had seat belts, & the consensus of driver opinion was, that we were better off falling out, rather than staying in the things, in a big shunt. These cars folded up fairly easily, often wrapping around the drivers feet legs,
trapping him in the mess. Often with fuel every where.
Both the 20, & the FJ brabham had the fuel tank as the seat.
The F1 Brabham, had pannier tanks, which formed the side body work, & fitted around, & through the chassis tubes, to give a more or less smooth inner body work. They had recesses for the pipes, which carried the hot water & oil forward to the radiators in the nose. It was a hot office.
The pannier tanks held 10 gallons each, & it had a seat fuel tank which held 7 gallons. The seat tanks were made to fit the driver, & then padded. For my first drive of the F1, we had a cut down kitchen chair inserted into the seat tank, as I could not reach the peddles from Jack's seat.
The only safty consideration was for spectators, & there was not too much of that. I can remember times when the only thing between them & me was a barb wire fence. It was not much different to the World Rally Championship today.
The pits were on the side of the track, infront of the pit counter, not behind, so you came up to the pits, at full speed, jamed on the skids, & slid into your {or someone else's]pit.
There were no "safty" cars. Flags were showen as follows.
Yellow, still; Shunt ahead.
Yellow, waved: Shunt. Car, or marshals partially on track.
Double yellow: Track partially or fully blocked.
White, still; Service vehicle, Ambulence, or Tow truck on track.
White, Waved furiously; As above, BLO*DY close ahead.
They did not remove wrecks, unless on the bitumen. I remember a rolled car, sitting 30 Ft off the exit of a 125 MPH corner for
11.75 hours of one 12 hour race. We were expected to, & mostly did, make allowances for such things.
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