What most annoys you?
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for me I get really irritated by the fact that you wish to purchase a classic, everything seems OK, and then the dreaded ' plate not included with sale'.
Do the owners of such cars really think that people are going to pay the going rate for a classic and then expect to swallow the hefty car depreciation when the original plate is removed. I reckon the car is worth up to 25% less than market value without the original number plate.
Dealers and private sellers please stop this practice and just sell the cars as they should be.
Feel a bit better now.
Do the owners of such cars really think that people are going to pay the going rate for a classic and then expect to swallow the hefty car depreciation when the original plate is removed. I reckon the car is worth up to 25% less than market value without the original number plate.
Dealers and private sellers please stop this practice and just sell the cars as they should be.
Feel a bit better now.
Yes, when it is the original plate for the car, and the car is special, the plate should stay with the car. Splitting an original plate form an original car just for profit is very poor form. Why are these people dealing in classics in the 1st place? they have no soul!
We used to have a Wolseley Hornet with the reg number BEN241C, the car was worth about £1000, and the plate was worth about £1000, sold the car with the plate for £600 because it was going to an enthusiast for restoration and would not be split.
We used to have a Wolseley Hornet with the reg number BEN241C, the car was worth about £1000, and the plate was worth about £1000, sold the car with the plate for £600 because it was going to an enthusiast for restoration and would not be split.
zumbruk said:
Why are these people dealing in classics in the 1st place?
For money.
For money is of course dead right, so next time you are in the market for a classic best find out if the seller has 'changed the plate' or 'plate not included' and tell them that the car is only worth x now original plate has been sold on.
If I own a car worth, say 1k, which has a number plate worth e.g 2k, there is no way I can sell it for 3k.
Somewone who actually wants the car, with an original plate wouldn't pay showoff rates for the plate on top of going rate for the car.
So what option does that leave?
-Sell for e.g 1.5k to a pretend "enthusiast" who then sells the plate for 2k and is laughing at the mug who just gave him thousands
-Sell it to a real enthusiast who is subsequently faced with the same dilema and might not be so lucky
This means I have just spunked 2k away for the sake of doing the right thing and chances are it was all for nothing.
Or I can keep the plate and sell the car to someone who actually just wants the car.
If there was a way to make the plate non transferable, then that is an option, but I would still spunk away 2g's
It's a tricky one. Unless someone gives me 3 bags for the car then it will almost certainly lose its plate if it leaves my ownership.
Would someone pay that- NO hence "plate not included in sale"
Somewone who actually wants the car, with an original plate wouldn't pay showoff rates for the plate on top of going rate for the car.
So what option does that leave?
-Sell for e.g 1.5k to a pretend "enthusiast" who then sells the plate for 2k and is laughing at the mug who just gave him thousands
-Sell it to a real enthusiast who is subsequently faced with the same dilema and might not be so lucky
This means I have just spunked 2k away for the sake of doing the right thing and chances are it was all for nothing.
Or I can keep the plate and sell the car to someone who actually just wants the car.
If there was a way to make the plate non transferable, then that is an option, but I would still spunk away 2g's
It's a tricky one. Unless someone gives me 3 bags for the car then it will almost certainly lose its plate if it leaves my ownership.
Would someone pay that- NO hence "plate not included in sale"
What you say stigproducts is dead right of course, in the example you use the car is worth 1k with plate, to a genuine car nut without the original plate the car is worth half of that, say £500.
Its when you get to higher value cars the perspective changes. A car is worth 30k with original plate, plate gets sold leaving a car worth about 20k, to a genuine car nut that is.But our plate dealer still wants 30k, and there's the rub.
But no getting away from it, money is king.
Its when you get to higher value cars the perspective changes. A car is worth 30k with original plate, plate gets sold leaving a car worth about 20k, to a genuine car nut that is.But our plate dealer still wants 30k, and there's the rub.
But no getting away from it, money is king.
stigproducts said:
If I own a car worth, say 1k, which has a number plate worth e.g 2k, there is no way I can sell it for 3k.
Somewone who actually wants the car, with an original plate wouldn't pay showoff rates for the plate on top of going rate for the car.
So what option does that leave?
-Sell for e.g 1.5k to a pretend "enthusiast" who then sells the plate for 2k and is laughing at the mug who just gave him thousands
-Sell it to a real enthusiast who is subsequently faced with the same dilema and might not be so lucky
This means I have just spunked 2k away for the sake of doing the right thing and chances are it was all for nothing.
Or I can keep the plate and sell the car to someone who actually just wants the car.
If there was a way to make the plate non transferable, then that is an option, but I would still spunk away 2g's
It's a tricky one. Unless someone gives me 3 bags for the car then it will almost certainly lose its plate if it leaves my ownership.
Would someone pay that- NO hence "plate not included in sale"
I used to be one of the 'keep it with the car brigade' but I agree with you entirely, in so much as if you don't sell the plate, one or two owners along, someone will. Father-in-law took number off '32 Model Y last year(£1600 from a dealer). He's emigrating now so car's for sale at around £1400. Would he have got £3000 from one of the purists for the car with the original plate?......I don't think so for a moment, possibly £2000 but he'd still have been a grand down.
In 1996 I bought a 1949 Bentley MKVI, it had the registration number CGA496, on tracing the cars history I found that the original number was FAV834. The DVLA told me that the number was no longer in use so I could have it, and they issued it to my Bentley free of charge. It was really nice having the right number on the car. I sold the car in 2002 and it was recently for sale again at H&H, still with its number.
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