Elan +2 but... bigger

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TheOrgano

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36 posts

119 months

Saturday 24th August
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I'm thinking about a classic, and I love the look and feel of the Elan +2. Fantastic design and very nice. However, They're a bit small for me and I felt a bit too cramped.

What I'm wondering is, are there any other British cars of a similar vintage which are like the Elan, but a bit bigger dimensionally? I've had a look around, but I may have missed something.

Mr.Chips

1,041 posts

221 months

Saturday 24th August
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The only ones that spring to my mind are a Gilbern and a Marcos Mantis. Both are quite rare and the Mantis is IMO rather visually challenged!

jules_s

4,547 posts

240 months

Saturday 24th August
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Elite and or Eclat?

TheOrgano

Original Poster:

36 posts

119 months

Saturday 24th August
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Mr.Chips said:
The only ones that spring to my mind are a Gilbern and a Marcos Mantis. Both are quite rare and the Mantis is IMO rather visually challenged!
I take it you mean the old M70 Mantis? Yeah, they are a bit weird. I do like the 90s Mantis, though

daqinggregg

3,083 posts

136 months

Sunday 25th August
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Lotus Excel SE, 1989, Manual, 2.2L £13,995 Two owners from new and last owner for 31 years.



I have no knowledge of this car or the dealer, just posting as an example.

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15685494

Pistom

5,577 posts

166 months

Sunday 25th August
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Didn't realise those were still so cheap.

Mark A S

1,902 posts

195 months

Sunday 25th August
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Not quite as old, but how about a TVR Griffith or Chimaera ??

I'm 6,2" 18 months from being a pensioner and i fit and am able to get in and out just fine in either.

ferret50

1,591 posts

16 months

Sunday 25th August
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Cars were smaller back then, perhaps we generally enjoy a better diet/health and grow a bit taller nowadays?

GoodOlBoy

583 posts

110 months

Sunday 25th August
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Pistom said:
Didn't realise those were still so cheap.
Strange - the advert quotes 5,800 miles per annum, which equates to over 200k miles if my maths is right. Mileage as per MOT history show it as 40k miles with only 5k miles covered in the last twenty years ?


TR4man

5,320 posts

181 months

Sunday 25th August
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It is pity that you want a British car as I think that the French built Monica looked like an elongated +2 Elan.

However, you’d be very lucky to find one.



hidetheelephants

27,825 posts

200 months

Sunday 25th August
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TheOrgano said:
Mr.Chips said:
The only ones that spring to my mind are a Gilbern and a Marcos Mantis. Both are quite rare and the Mantis is IMO rather visually challenged!
I take it you mean the old M70 Mantis? Yeah, they are a bit weird. I do like the 90s Mantis, though
The earlier GT looks potentially cramped but I've never sat in one, much better looking though. What about a Ginetta G21?

LotusOmega375D

8,097 posts

160 months

Sunday 25th August
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Jensen GT? Similar engine, transmission and age to an Elan +2, albeit not as nice to look at.

aeropilot

36,580 posts

234 months

Sunday 25th August
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LotusOmega375D said:
Jensen GT? Similar engine, transmission and age to an Elan +2, albeit not as nice to look at.
The Jensen GT didn't use a similar engine and transmission to the Elan +2 at all.

The Elan used the Ford based Lotus-Ford Twin Cam and a Ford gearbox.
The Jensen used Lotus's own Type 900 series 16v DOHC engine and German sourced Getrag gearbox.


Yertis

18,678 posts

273 months

Sunday 25th August
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daqinggregg said:
Lotus Excel SE, 1989, Manual, 2.2L £13,995 Two owners from new and last owner for 31 years.



I have no knowledge of this car or the dealer, just posting as an example.

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15685494
Would be my suggestion too. After all, the Elite from which it was developed was created as a sort of Elan plus 2 replacement/ move Lotus up a league kinda thing

Lotobear

7,148 posts

135 months

Sunday 25th August
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It's a shame the Plus 2 doesn't suit you as they really are a superb sports car.

I'm a serial owner and have never really considered them cramped - they always feel quite roomy to me but still retain that snug sportscar feel - I have always chosen them over the Elan for this reason and that they just feel a bit more 'grown up'.

Nothing really to compare them to IMO - the Eclat/Excel series are great cars but I've never been that keen on the wedge look.

...a Stag comes to mind but a completely different concept to an Elan.

I ran a S2 Alfa Spider Veloce alongside my last Plus 2 and I rather liked it but it was no bigger than a Plus 2 inside and in a different league (negatively) dynamically and the 2 rear seats were probably even less practical that the Lotus.

Mr.Chips

1,041 posts

221 months

Sunday 25th August
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TheOrgano said:
Mr.Chips said:
The only ones that spring to my mind are a Gilbern and a Marcos Mantis. Both are quite rare and the Mantis is IMO rather visually challenged!
I take it you mean the old M70 Mantis? Yeah, they are a bit weird. I do like the 90s Mantis, though
Yes, that’s the one I meant. I’m a big fan of all Marcos’s, I really like the Mini-Marcos and went to the factory in Westbury once for a brochure for a Mantara. Expected to pay a couple of quid, but the guy I spoke to was happy to give it to me as I’d taken the trouble to go to the factory and have a look around. Found out later the guy was Jem Marsh, lovely bloke.

Buzzfan

128 posts

201 months

Monday 26th August
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British, early 70s and a bit bigger is a tall order - The Lotus Eclat & Elite are the obvious post Elan+2 choices others have suggested.

Reliant had stopped making Scimitar coupes in the late 60’s, is their 2 door estate an option? Or Ford’s Capri?

Jaguar finally launched the XJS by ‘76, but this (& Jensens Interceptor) were more a grand tourer than an agile 4 seat coupe.

I cannot think of any other British alternative to cars like the BMW 3.0 Cs, Porsche 928, Dino 308GT4, or at a lower price, Alfa Romeo’s GTV2000, Lancia Beta etc.?

By the late 70’s, I recall most wealthier friends wanting agile 4 seat cars weren’t buying coupes, most seemed to be buying BMW’s 2002tii & 2 door 325, or VW’s Golf Gti - probably all at a lower price than the Elan Plus Two or Lotus Eclat would have been - I think those costed as much (or as little) as an E Type when new.


Edited by Buzzfan on Monday 26th August 12:46

moffspeed

2,901 posts

214 months

Monday 26th August
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Yertis said:
daqinggregg said:
Lotus Excel SE, 1989, Manual, 2.2L £13,995 Two owners from new and last owner for 31 years.



I have no knowledge of this car or the dealer, just posting as an example.

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15685494
Would be my suggestion too. After all, the Elite from which it was developed was created as a sort of Elan plus 2 replacement/ move Lotus up a league kinda thing
Seconded. However the baggy cloth upholstery (and door cards) would need to be binned.

A deep burgundy leather I reckon…

Gompo

4,517 posts

265 months

Monday 26th August
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There'll be better examples of Excels around for similar money to the grey car. Not that I know of anything specifically wrong with that one, but it's comparatively high miles and the cloth does look a bit tired, as mentioned.

AMGSee55

666 posts

109 months

Tuesday 27th August
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Probably too ‘GT’ for your liking, but any Bristol from the 70s (411, 412, 603) has plenty of space as they’re effectively 2-door saloons.