Identify a window glass ?

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healeyneil

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154 months

Friday 16th August
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I’ve just bought a Haldane HD300 which has sat unbuilt for 25 + years.
One of the many things I need to sort out is window glasses/ quarterlights.
The photo here is a built car, not mine.
I’d be surprised if haldane made their own, tho it does look like a quarterlights, then a separate runner for the wind up window.
The makers are long gone, there’s no owners club, so I’m struggling a bit !

InitialDave

12,235 posts

126 months

Friday 16th August
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Could you make plywood templates and have glass cut? I assume it's a flat profile.

Turbobanana

6,740 posts

208 months

Friday 16th August
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Looks like an MGA FHC glass to me:



Congrats on the purchase, OP. Not jealous at all!

hidetheelephants

27,825 posts

200 months

Friday 16th August
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I'd find a Healey 3000 owner nearby and ask nicely if you can make some paper patterns from their glass to see if it's the same shape. Pilgrim are still on the go and bought the rights/moulds/etc when Haldane went bust, it's worth a phone call even though they don't do that kit anymore.


Edited by hidetheelephants on Friday 16th August 17:53

healeyneil

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Friday 16th August
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For IVA purposes, all glass, or even perspex, has to be E marked.
It’s definitely not Healey.
Pilgrim stopped trading many years ago. There is a Pilgrim Motorsports now, but they know nothing about these.
Lots of blind alleys at the moment.
I’ve even been trying to trace Haldane staff from the original build - which happened maybe 5 miles from me !

Turbobanana

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Friday 16th August
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There is (or was, in July 2022) a Haldane in the Glasgow Riverside Museum, as an example of a locally made car. They might be amenable to an approach for information or a poke round it.

Bit tricky to get to, mind:


hidetheelephants

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Friday 16th August
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E marked perspex? rofl Get the IVA with no glass, then worry about side screens.

530dTPhil

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225 months

Friday 16th August
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The quarterlight assembly looks very much like MG Midget. The drop glass looks to be a shorter version of the standard Midget glass.
The Midget glasses are flat toughened and modified versions can be made by various people in the UK. For example Tyneside Safety Glass or IG Glass in Scotland can both manufacture to correct spec and apply the necessary markings for road use.
Both have customers throughout the UK and could collect patterns for manufacture. IG are probably a better bet for low volume or one offs.

Ambleton

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Friday 16th August
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hidetheelephants said:
E marked perspex? rofl Get the IVA with no glass, then worry about side screens.
This.

IVA it as a "speedster". IE no glass/windscreen/washers/wipers. I wouldn't even bother painting it pre-IVA.

healeyneil

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Friday 16th August
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There is, I believe, a company who can do E marked lexan or polycarbonate. I was hoping that someone somewhere would say “ that’s a xyz window” and save me bother!
I suspect I will build it first as a speedster. I also want to get an age related registration, and that seems to require some hoop jumping too.
I will keep investigating

healeyneil

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Saturday 24th August
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The internet is good for something other than porn and ridiculous arguments. Tonight I was chatting with one of the original Haldane team. And the glass was custom made !

hidetheelephants

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Saturday 24th August
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What do you think you'll do? Freestyle it or can you track down one of the other Haldane 300s and make a pattern?

healeyneil

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154 months

Sunday 25th August
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I will creep round car shows with my tape measure in the first instance!