Yet another What Car?

[john2443]

Too old for my knowledge!

[Lotobear]

Dusty and Billy's first car?

[Turbobanana]

Austin 7 Top Hat saloon

[mac96]

Lotobear said:

Dusty and Billy's first car?

Is the right answer!

[austin]

Turbobanana said:

Austin 7 Top Hat saloon

Nope, wrong wheels, front axle, radiator etc.

[Turbobanana]

austin said:

Turbobanana said:

Austin 7 Top Hat saloon

Nope, wrong wheels, front axle, radiator etc.

Whoosh.

[Turbobanana]

My best guess - a 1920s Star. Little-known British manufacturer.

For: Evidence of name script in top left of radiator grille; low-ish headlight position; artillery wheels; seemingly a British number plate.

Against: Evidence of a protruding "peak" in the grille surround (bit like a Riley, but not); wing tips don't match with most Star images (although could be coachbuilder-dependent); can't read the script on the radiator; relative rarity at the time.

See what you think.

[Roy C]

Late 1920s Crossley?

[austin]

Turbobanana said:

austin said:

Turbobanana said:

Austin 7 Top Hat saloon

Nope, wrong wheels, front axle, radiator etc.

Whoosh.

Doh, looking at the car to much.

Anyway I think it could be a Palladium.

[Fane]

I'm with Turbobanana.

[nicanary]

When I first saw the photo, I immediately thought "American". Artillery wheels, what looked like a visor - which I now think is an opened top half of the windscreen. It's not a Crossley, the shape of the peaked radiator shell is wrong, but it could be a Palladium, but they were always (I think) bodied as open tourers. This looks like a saloon, which takes me back to American.

None of this helps anyone............

[5 In a Row]

I immediately thought 'American' as well but that was because of the style of the hats on the mudguard!

I have nothing else to add

[Yertis]

Lotobear said:

Dusty and Billy's first car?

[nicanary]

Yertis said:

Lotobear said:

Dusty and Billy's first car?

Nah. Too busy with their stamp catalogue.

[Ozzer2006]

I think it's a Belsize 15/20.
Like this

Edited by Ozzer2006 on Tuesday 9th July 21:47

[Fane]

Fane said:

I'm with Turbobanana.

Hmmm, I'm talking myself out of this now. I get the american look to the wheels and the hats, but it looks like the number plate is a UK one. I'm sure that I've seen a french car with a very similar radiator.

EDIT - I'm now back on to it being a Star.

Edited by Fane on Tuesday 9th July 16:48

[nicanary]

Do you think what appears to be a protusion at the top of the radiator is in fact a reflection of the dark trilby hats?

[lowdrag]

All I can add is that the AR plate is Hertfordshire from 1903 - 1921. That might help with the make if in that period they were making cars.

[Turbobanana]

Ozzer2006 said:

I think it's a Belsize 15/20.
Like this

Edited by Ozzer2006 on Tuesday 9th July 21:47

I've spent way too long researching this, and I now concede that Ozzer is right: it's a Belsize. My only reservation is that the "Belsize" script on the grille is too near the upper-left corner compared to other images online, but there may be many reasons for that including inconsistencies in manufacture, an owner repositioning it etc. The prow of the radiator grille is the real giveaway for me - it's a perfect match, as is the relatively low headlight position and the tips of the front wings.

Well done Ozzer

[CER927]

Can anyone offer any assistance with identifying this car please?