The Sorcerers 1967 / Epic Jag MK8 - Wolseley 6/110 Chase

The Sorcerers 1967 / Epic Jag MK8 - Wolseley 6/110 Chase

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SS427 Camaro

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I found this 1967 released film by chance earlier. It stars Boris Carloff and Ian Ogilvy in an early role. But the highlight is a really cool high speed car chase, which involves a tired Jag MK8 and a Plod Wolseley 6/110 ( this 6/110 appeared in lots of other films )
The car chase “largely” appears to have been carried out on “ open roads “ and very early on a damp winters morning, in late 66 early 1967. I am intruiged who the drivers were, but watch the Wolseley……

Ifinishposts

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I am always intrigued by car chases in films, in real life would the cars be matched or would one handle better or be faster than the other.
One that springs to mind is Audi v Chevelle in the first Jack Reacher film.
Personally I think the Audi would walk it.

Dapster

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Found it here. There’s some pretty lary driving on public roads. The Wolsley spin looks unintentional as well!

https://youtu.be/7feOby0Jjh0?si=oUen0K6ICtIMr338

In terms of mismatched cars, even as a 12 year old I could tell that the Duke boys should be putting a bit more daylight between Rosco P Coltrane’s wheezing Plymouth Fury waterbed and their welded Charger!

aeropilot

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The Wolseley looks like it might be a London reg, difficult to see in the poor quality of the film, so it might well have been a real ex-Met area car that had been bought for filming once sold off after its 2-3 year service life....it might even be a 6/99 rather than a 6/110....not easy to see.

Probably filmed early on a Sunday morning......nice lot of opposite lock action on crap cross-plies biggrin

Would have made my late father smile, he was in many a car chase in the early 60's through West London as a wireless operator in 6/99's and 6/110's.
My first ever car ride at a few days old was the ride home from maternity hospital with Mum in the back of a Met.Police 6/110.

Ifinishposts

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Great clip.

The Wolsley is rapid, it spun out and even with five up it catches the Jag' easily.lol.

hidetheelephants

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The two-tones from a car with a Winkworth bell is irrationally irritating. hehe The whole film can be seen here in non-potatocam quality.


Edited by hidetheelephants on Monday 1st April 16:29

aeropilot

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hidetheelephants said:
The two-tones from a car with a Winkworth bell is irrationally irritating. hehe The whole film can be seen here.

Edited by hidetheelephants on Monday 1st April 15:39
Some of the later (and last) batch of C/D reg 6/110's bought by the Met and operated until 1969/70 did indeed have two-tones fitted (as well as the bell) so it's not entirely wrong for the period, but wrong for a dateless reg 6/99 or 6/110 area car.
The driver wearing Sgt. stripes is irrationally irritating though wink

SS427 Camaro

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Joe Wadham & Jack Silk were apparently drivers in these type of films, could they have been driving here ?

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Dapster said:
Found it here. There’s some pretty lary driving on public roads. The Wolsley spin looks unintentional as well!

https://youtu.be/7feOby0Jjh0?si=oUen0K6ICtIMr338

In terms of mismatched cars, even as a 12 year old I could tell that the Duke boys should be putting a bit more daylight between Rosco P Coltrane’s wheezing Plymouth Fury waterbed and their welded Charger!
You have put it absolutely perfectly Dapster ! “ Some pretty lary driving on public roads “ !

SS427 Camaro

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aeropilot said:
The Wolseley looks like it might be a London reg, difficult to see in the poor quality of the film, so it might well have been a real ex-Met area car that had been bought for filming once sold off after its 2-3 year service life....it might even be a 6/99 rather than a 6/110....not easy to see.

Probably filmed early on a Sunday morning......nice lot of opposite lock action on crap cross-plies biggrin

Would have made my late father smile, he was in many a car chase in the early 60's through West London as a wireless operator in 6/99's and 6/110's.
My first ever car ride at a few days old was the ride home from maternity hospital with Mum in the back of a Met.Police 6/110.
Il try to see if I can read the Wolsey’s number plate. Some great memories there aero, of what were some epic long forgotten car chases that must have gone on through London in the sixties.
I only have a few memories of my Late Dads tear ups, but he ran a robber over one day in London’s West end in his first E Type LFL 670F a green Series 1 FHC. The guy flew up into the air, landed heavily, picked himself up and managed to run away !

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Ifinishposts said:
Great clip.

The Wolsley is rapid, it spun out and even with five up it catches the Jag' easily.lol.
Yes, my thoughts too, that Wolseley picks up its skirts and really piles on the speed ! I’ve never read a road test on one of these, but I need to find one !
I think the Jag would have been a 3.4 Litre car, the ( gorgeous ) to me ) MK9 was 3.8 powered and was of course a quicker car.

aeropilot

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SS427 Camaro said:
Yes, my thoughts too, that Wolseley picks up its skirts and really piles on the speed ! I’ve never read a road test on one of these, but I need to find one !
I think the Jag would have been a 3.4 Litre car, the ( gorgeous ) to me ) MK9 was 3.8 powered and was of course a quicker car.
The Mk.8's were 3.4, but came in 3 power ratings depending on head type, so A-head equipped Mk.8's were only 160hp, so power to weight wise, wouldn't have been much quicker than a 6/110 (or 6/99), although most of the last batch of 6/110's bought by the met were auto's, so slower.
The Met area car drivers of the day (from memory of Dad's stories) preferred the older and shorter wheelbase 6/99's to the later 6/110's, even though the 6/110's had more hp.

aeropilot

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SS427 Camaro said:
Joe Wadham & Jack Silk were apparently drivers in these type of films, could they have been driving here ?
Most likely from what I've read.

They may well have been the drivers for the famous Robbery car chase as well, filmed around the same time, although I've never seen any mentioned of who the stunt drivers may have been for that famous sequence.

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hidetheelephants

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SS427 Camaro said:
Il try to see if I can read the Wolsey’s number plate. Some great memories there aero, of what were some epic long forgotten car chases that must have gone on through London in the sixties.
I only have a few memories of my Late Dads tear ups, but he ran a robber over one day in London’s West end in his first E Type LFL 670F a green Series 1 FHC. The guy flew up into the air, landed heavily, picked himself up and managed to run away !


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SS427 Camaro said:
aeropilot said:
The Wolseley looks like it might be a London reg, difficult to see in the poor quality of the film, so it might well have been a real ex-Met area car that had been bought for filming once sold off after its 2-3 year service life....it might even be a 6/99 rather than a 6/110....not easy to see.

Probably filmed early on a Sunday morning......nice lot of opposite lock action on crap cross-plies biggrin

Would have made my late father smile, he was in many a car chase in the early 60's through West London as a wireless operator in 6/99's and 6/110's.
My first ever car ride at a few days old was the ride home from maternity hospital with Mum in the back of a Met.Police 6/110.
Il try to see if I can read the Wolsey’s number plate. Some great memories there aero, of what were some epic long forgotten car chases that must have gone on through London in the sixties.
Mk.7/8/9 Jag's were very much the favoured stolen mount of the criminal classes back in the early 60's, along with Ford Zephyr's and Zodiac's.....that I do remember my Dad saying.

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williamp

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aeropilot said:
The Wolseley looks like it might be a London reg, difficult to see in the poor quality of the film, so it might well have been a real ex-Met area car that had been bought for filming once sold off after its 2-3 year service life....it might even be a 6/99 rather than a 6/110....not easy to see.

Probably filmed early on a Sunday morning......nice lot of opposite lock action on crap cross-plies biggrin

Would have made my late father smile, he was in many a car chase in the early 60's through West London as a wireless operator in 6/99's and 6/110's.
My first ever car ride at a few days old was the ride home from maternity hospital with Mum in the back of a Met.Police 6/110.
On the link above its XYU464.