NSU Prinz TT, Any knowledge? Values? issues?

NSU Prinz TT, Any knowledge? Values? issues?

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anyoldcardave

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768 posts

74 months

Sunday 17th March
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I have one coming my way, fingers crossed,know nothing about them, apart from transporting a project one from Ireland to Essex, years ago.

The car has been long term in a collection, not moved for a few years, the guy has owned it twice, sold it to Ireland, bought it back, and reunited it with its original UK registration, it is a RHD UK supplied car. Transferable valuable plate too.

It looks mint, is insured for agreed value of 17k, will need recommision, but there is a van load of parts with it, nos and used, so that may not be a parts chase.

Are they really worth that kind of money?

Anyone know of issues associated with these cars? Other than rust, which it does not have.

ChevronB19

6,377 posts

170 months

Sunday 17th March
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anyoldcardave said:
I have one coming my way, fingers crossed,know nothing about them, apart from transporting a project one from Ireland to Essex, years ago.

The car has been long term in a collection, not moved for a few years, the guy has owned it twice, sold it to Ireland, bought it back, and reunited it with its original UK registration, it is a RHD UK supplied car. Transferable valuable plate too.

It looks mint, is insured for agreed value of 17k, will need recommision, but there is a van load of parts with it, nos and used, so that may not be a parts chase.

Are they really worth that kind of money?

Anyone know of issues associated with these cars? Other than rust, which it does not have.
I am *deeply* jealous. PM me. When you say ‘come my way’ I assume you own it rather than sorting it for ‘the guy’?

My dad had 5 (!), including 3 at the same time. He rallied them, and despite the 911 engine position, they’re a lot more forgiving handling wise than you might expect. He still has most of the stuff to upgrade a TT to a TTS.

If your mates is orange, even better!

GTRene

17,785 posts

231 months

Sunday 17th March
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lol, I remember when we were kids long long time ago, we were a familie of 7 (5 kids) so we went on vacation with 2 cars...

a Fiat 600 and a NSU Prinz 1000 I believe that was, ok we stayed in the Netherlands but went up North to Friesland near to the sea, there we go with 2 smallish cars, all went well, remember those days no APK/TUV needed.

then once there a day or so later, we went to a big city there, Sneek or Leeuwarden, I forgot, but to a market..

we got stopped by a Police agent for a not working brake light I believe, so we stopped... never got back in that car again... had to go in 2 times to our rented cabin with the Fiat 600 because the NSY Prinz 1000 was to bad to take us they said, it had to be crushed hehe rotten at some points...

so we were not happy, but the police said, you can keep the batterie... later the car was crushed into a small cube.

good old times lol hehe

T70RPM

489 posts

243 months

Monday 18th March
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I think that's a really cool car !

anyoldcardave

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768 posts

74 months

Monday 18th March
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ChevronB19 said:
I am *deeply* jealous. PM me. When you say ‘come my way’ I assume you own it rather than sorting it for ‘the guy’?

My dad had 5 (!), including 3 at the same time. He rallied them, and despite the 911 engine position, they’re a lot more forgiving handling wise than you might expect. He still has most of the stuff to upgrade a TT to a TTS.

If your mates is orange, even better!
Do you know what, I think it is orange, and a search found another Orange one for sale @ the suggested 17k. I only saw a couple of pics a few weeks ago, and cannot find them, and my memory is not what it was.

Yes I am buying it, with all the spares, apparently he spent 4k on them, and the number plate is staying with the car, I am guessing it is an early car.

He has other cars, the contact that put him in touch with me, suggested a MK1 AND A MK2 Escort, he has not mentioned these and wants the NSU moved on first as a package.
The guy that put him in touch knows I am equipped with the right vehicles to shift things.

No idea what I will do with it, after going through it, and getting it tested, probably tested first, it is on the key apparently, then dealing with any issues raised.
Maybe take it out for a few runs, meets and shows, as the timing is right for this, but honestly, it is going to be tough to take it out, when the GSI Carlton and the Mountune ST3, will be sitting beside it, or the 323i Baur and the V-spec Eunos can drop the roof, they should all be back to road legal in the next month or so.

60,s cars have always been my thing, 70,s too, but recently, like the classic market in general, I have moved on to later very usable cars, fuel injection was a game changer in the reliability stakes lol. They always start, usually lol.

GTRene

17,785 posts

231 months

Monday 18th March
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I can understand I'm going back also with cars, but then with a twist, say classic but with a lot modern parts, suspension/brakes/ignition or even an engine swap, a bit bigger wheels but a bit old style.

sometimes i see old cars for sale as new, I mean better then new, even underside and all painted and better treated and even all old bolt/nuts brons? plated some are a work of art, almost to clean/lovely to drive in them, afraid of them getting dirty :-)

anyoldcardave

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768 posts

74 months

Tuesday 19th March
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GTRene said:
I can understand I'm going back also with cars, but then with a twist, say classic but with a lot modern parts, suspension/brakes/ignition or even an engine swap, a bit bigger wheels but a bit old style.

sometimes i see old cars for sale as new, I mean better then new, even underside and all painted and better treated and even all old bolt/nuts brons? plated some are a work of art, almost to clean/lovely to drive in them, afraid of them getting dirty :-)
A car I found some years ago, pulled it from a lock up, where it had sat def, pre 1977, probably longer going by the very low 25k recorded, turned up for sale again recently.

I was tempted, as I knew the car inside out, its history, and had gone through the painstaking re registration, and getting its original reg. when I sold it, apart from some new chrome, lights. original brake parts, and an exterior repaint, it was all as it left the factory.

Looking at the pics, it had been over restored, a perfectly original underside had been painted in body colour, obviously hada full strip repaint, but had aftermarket parts fitted, air filter and other bits, alloy wheels, and the original parts were not with it.

Basically, a very original car, that had survived 50 plus years, never been welded, had been ruined with an over the top restoration it did not need.

Lotobear

7,149 posts

135 months

Tuesday 19th March
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I recall these from back in the day - If I'm not mistaken Munch used the same engine in the Mammoth motorcycle

aeropilot

36,589 posts

234 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Lotobear said:
If I'm not mistaken Munch used the same engine in the Mammoth motorcycle
yes


CKY

1,932 posts

22 months

Tuesday 19th March
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anyoldcardave said:
The car has been long term in a collection, not moved for a few years, the guy has owned it twice, sold it to Ireland, bought it back, and reunited it with its original UK registration, it is a RHD UK supplied car. Transferable valuable plate too.
Nice find OP! Sadly a rare car nowadays in RHD 'UK market' trim..

anyoldcardave

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768 posts

74 months

Tuesday 19th March
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CKY said:
Nice find OP! Sadly a rare car nowadays in RHD 'UK market' trim..
It found me, but lots of cars do, from contacts home and abroad, people have got to know when things need moving, they get moved and rehomed, but you never know what you will find over and above the inintial item.

I once was asked to buy an MGB, in a stable, on a farm, that was needed for a new horse business, I went to look, and went back the following Saturday, with 2x 3.5 tonnes recovery trucks, a 7.5 tonne recovery, a dropside 3.5 tonner and a 3.5 tonne van, and 2 people in each.
The B turned out to be a 1 owner, with cherished plate put on new, pull handle, very early car, with enough nos parts to build another car, including a heritage shell, not correct for the early car, but another 72 came with it, for engine and box and Id, and we built it, literally with all new parts, save the drive train, with nos genuine panels, glass, dash, seats, roof and frame, brakes, screen frame,carpets, lights, you name it, it was there, nos, including a clutch and rostyles, but it got new chrome wires.

One of the big MG restorers snapped up the original car, and the 50k mile Land Rover 90, pick up, still wearing its original canvas taut, was no problem to find a new home for,

I will def go for it, once he is ready to part with it, early April is when suggested and after a few phone chats, he is happy I was reccomended to him, by a mutual friend in Ireland.

LimmerickLad

2,133 posts

22 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Nothing to add except my 1st ever car aged 14 was an NSU prinz Sport that I paid £10 for. Thanks for stirring the memory bank OP driving

anyoldcardave

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768 posts

74 months

Tuesday 19th March
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LimmerickLad said:
Nothing to add except my 1st ever car aged 14 was an NSU prinz Sport that I paid £10 for. Thanks for stirring the memory bank OP driving
I think they were quite popular in Ireland.

My first car was a Renault 16,which I never got on the road, because I could not insure it, being a foreign car, had 3 since, 2 of which are now in Ireland.

I ended up with a Hillman Imp, my sex life suffered lol, so it was quickly replaced with a MK1 Cortina, then a Wolseley !8/85, for one reason only lol.

LimmerickLad

2,133 posts

22 months

Tuesday 19th March
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anyoldcardave said:
LimmerickLad said:
Nothing to add except my 1st ever car aged 14 was an NSU prinz Sport that I paid £10 for. Thanks for stirring the memory bank OP driving
I think they were quite popular in Ireland.

My first car was a Renault 16,which I never got on the road, because I could not insure it, being a foreign car, had 3 since, 2 of which are now in Ireland.

I ended up with a Hillman Imp, my sex life suffered lol, so it was quickly replaced with a MK1 Cortina, then a Wolseley !8/85, for one reason only lol.
Being only 14 my dad held the keys so I was only able to drive the NSU up and down a lane when he was about.............ironically my 2nd car was a Hillman Imp (HG failure & warped head twice plus no reverse so had to open doors and push it backwards) and would you believe my 3rd car (16 by now) was also a Mk1 Cortina which had been hand painted brown with an orange stripe down the sides.....I also had Wolsely 1885 (tank) would you believe?...it was an automatic and my main memory isn't the same as yours but the 1st time I drove it I pressed the brake pedal with both feet and headbutted the windscreen. banghead

anyoldcardave

Original Poster:

768 posts

74 months

Tuesday 19th March
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LimmerickLad said:
Being only 14 my dad held the keys so I was only able to drive the NSU up and down a lane when he was about.............ironically my 2nd car was a Hillman Imp (HG failure & warped head twice plus no reverse so had to open doors and push it backwards) and would you believe my 3rd car (16 by now) was also a Mk1 Cortina which had been hand painted brown with an orange stripe down the sides.....I also had Wolsely 1885 (tank) would you believe?...it was an automatic and my main memory isn't the same as yours but the 1st time I drove it I pressed the brake pedal with both feet and headbutted the windscreen. banghead
Lol, great minds, mine was an auto too, the gearchange and handbrake on the dash, a blessing, reclining seats, no gap. and going level with the rears, a true passion wagon.

My Cortina was original blue, with a gawdy yellow stripe, and trying to nudge an indicated ton in the Imp, also meant head gasket failure, twice lol, Kept all its gears though.

Auto cars were once quite rare in Ireland, I can remember friends avoiding them like the plague, manual or nothing, that has changed now.

LimmerickLad

2,133 posts

22 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Bet you didn't have a Hillman Minx estate with a floor so rotten you could see the road underneath in holes bige enough to put your feet thru right by the pedals ....bit of a fred flinstone car you could say biggrin

anyoldcardave

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768 posts

74 months

Wednesday 20th March
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LimmerickLad said:
Bet you didn't have a Hillman Minx estate with a floor so rotten you could see the road underneath in holes bige enough to put your feet thru right by the pedals ....bit of a fred flinstone car you could say biggrin
No, lol, @around 14 I was driving on a local site set up as a learning area, in a Singer Gazelle my Father repaired, that had been wrapped around a lamp post, sideways, the n/s B post was where the driver sat, it really should have been scrapped lol,it was banana shaped, the roof a few feet higher than it should have been, and a little out of shape lol,

Never driven anything that rotten

Turbobanana

6,743 posts

208 months

Wednesday 20th March
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Years ago I went to look at a Cortina 1600E. The seller was very keen to demonstrate that it could do 100mph. I was nervous but went along for the ride. It was going OK until, as the speed rose, I felt a draught. Looking down I could see the road passing under my feet through the holes in the floor pan. I didn't buy it.

BryanC

1,112 posts

245 months

Wednesday 20th March
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LimmerickLad said:
Bet you didn't have a Hillman Minx estate with a floor so rotten you could see the road underneath in holes bige enough to put your feet thru right by the pedals ....bit of a fred flinstone car you could say biggrin
No, but went to college with a student working on site for a big contractor. His Renault Dauphine had a non existent floor pan so he installed some shuttering and cast a concrete slab to provide a new floor.

lowdrag

13,032 posts

220 months

Thursday 21st March
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The Jaguar club had a spares day every year in Farnham. While I was at Goodwood one day a chap asked me if I was interested in a car his dad owned. And here it is - a 1959 Jaguar Mk 1 3.4 in a garage no more than 300 yds from where we held that spares day. It had but 18,000 on the clock. All we had to do was clean the points, pump the tyres up, and change the fuel. The bodywork is untouched.

Where found it:-



And after a good service:-