Help identifying US classic

[boyse7en]

I've got this picture and I'm trying to identify the cars in it. I think the racing car might be a bit of a stretch, but can anyone give me a pointer on the Station Wagon tow car?

[Cotty]

It looks like a Chevrolet badge. At a guess I would say around the mid 50's but the lights don't match

The bike is 1964 Honda CZ100 Monkey Bike

[Panamax]

That's a mid/late 1950s Cadillac known as series 62. Details on this link,

https://www.classic-trader.com/uk/cars/listing/cad...

[RedWhiteMonkey]

Panamax said:

That's a 1957 Cadillac known as series 62. Details on this link,

https://www.classic-trader.com/uk/cars/listing/cad...

Pretty sure it isn't, the cars in those don't look the same.

[aeropilot]

RedWhiteMonkey said:

Panamax said:

That's a 1957 Cadillac known as series 62. Details on this link,

https://www.classic-trader.com/uk/cars/listing/cad...

Pretty sure it isn't, the cars in those don't look the same.

Yep.

Not the same. In fact Cadillac never made a wagon. The car in that link is a converted hearse (or flower cars as the yanks called them, and converted by a 3rd party, not factory made by Cadillac)

[boyse7en]

Cotty said:

It looks like a Chevrolet badge. At a guess I would say around the mid 50's but the lights don't match

The bike is 1964 Honda CZ100 Monkey Bike

I thought a '50s Chevrolet Bel Air Wagon, because of the dropping swage line, but I can't find an exact match. The rear window shape (with the little curve up in the middle) doesn't seem to be from a Bel Air

[CHLEMCBH]

RedWhiteMonkey said:

Panamax said:

That's a 1957 Cadillac known as series 62. Details on this link,

https://www.classic-trader.com/uk/cars/listing/cad...

Pretty sure it isn't, the cars in those don't look the same.

Of course it isn't the lights are completely different.

[Doofus]

It's a 1956 Dodge Sierra

[Panamax]

Doofus said:

It's a 1956 Dodge Sierra

You're absolutely right - I stand corrected!

[boyse7en]

Doofus said:

It's a 1956 Dodge Sierra

Bingo!

Knew I could depend on PH to have a least one 1950s Americana nerd

Thank you

[Cotty]

My gess at mid 50's was about right, just the wrong maker.

[CHLEMCBH]

I forgot all about Dodge in my 1956/7/8 X station wagon image searches!

[Turbobanana]

I think the racing car is a Brabham BT6 Formula Junior, like this one (which is the prototype):



...or this one:



Look at the cutouts for the suspension pick-up points, angle of roll bar and shape of the 'screen.

[PZR]

Turbobanana said:

I think the racing car is a Brabham BT6 Formula Junior, like this one (which is the prototype):



...or this one:



Look at the cutouts for the suspension pick-up points, angle of roll bar and shape of the 'screen.

How about a Honda-powered BT18, hence the connection with the early Honda Monkey Bike?

[Turbobanana]

PZR said:

How about a Honda-powered BT18, hence the connection with the early Honda Monkey Bike?

Could well be, but none of the images I can find show an 18 with suspension cutouts that match "our" car.

[nicanary]

It isn't Roy James, the most notorious of private Brabham FJ racers. Definitely not Honda powered - those engines were always works entries and never sold to the public.

[boyse7en]

Turbobanana said:

I think the racing car is a Brabham BT6 Formula Junior, like this one (which is the prototype):



...or this one:



Look at the cutouts for the suspension pick-up points, angle of roll bar and shape of the 'screen.

Top marks. I underestimated the PH Hive's nerding abilities it seems!

It is very likely to be a BT6 because the guy on the right in the photo is Mike Hailwood, who drove a Brabham Junior in 1963

[Richard-390a0]

You've got to love this forum (aside from some of the dross & stupid arguments) it comes good on stuff like this. Well done all !

[Dapster]

boyse7en said:

Are those UK plates on the Dodge and bike?

[restoman]

Panamax said:

That's a mid/late 1950s Cadillac known as series 62. Details on this link,

https://www.classic-trader.com/uk/cars/listing/cad...

?????? No similarity whatsoever???? !!!!!!!