Genuine 1951 C-type??

[MikeE]

Just spotted this, is this really one of the three original 1951 C-types entered in Le Mans? Seems to have flared arches for a start

Here

[thegreenhell]

Looks fake, and there's no way anyone legit would try to sell a genuine LM winning chassis with such an advert.

Also, XKC003 was scrapped along with the other team cars by the factory after the race in '52, wasn't it?

[Turbobanana]

lowdrag will be along in a minute to confirm, I'm sure, but I can't see it being real personally.

[MikeE]

Turbobanana said:

lowdrag will be along in a minute to confirm, I'm sure, but I can't see it being real personally.

Yes it's Lowdrags opinion I was waiting for

[CKY]

Turbobanana said:

lowdrag will be along in a minute to confirm, I'm sure, but I can't see it being real personally.

He'll probably still be pissing himself laughing after reading the advert; like you I'm somewhat sceptical as to the authenticity of the car.

[aeropilot]

Is the same car from 10 years ago, that is in the for sale ad posted in the OP I wonder....??

https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/rebi...

[ChevronB19]

All I will say, as an ‘I have (or rather had) a cool mum’ type comment, is that when she was at college in Glasgow she drove one of the real 3 (can’t remember which) down to Carlisle as a favour for the owner.

(She also rolled a mini on a rally when she was 6 months pregnant with me, which in retrospect explains an awful lot).

Edited by ChevronB19 on Wednesday 6th March 10:52

[MikeE]

aeropilot said:

Is the same car from 10 years ago, that is in the for sale ad posted in the OP I wonder....??

https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/rebi...

The one I posted at the start of this thread has flared arches which was an immediate red flag to me! At least the one you posted looks the right shape

[thegreenhell]

There are a lot of differences between those two cars, not just the flares. Also the side louvres, rear lights, front indicators and some of the shut lines are different, not to mention the state of the OP car which looks like it was hand painted with a brush.

[OverSteery]

you guys are such a suspicious lot.

I've looked at their website

A.C.C AUTOS CLASSIC CARS said:

If you have an interest in any of our vehicles, for more information, photos, videos, price, condition and technical characteristics, contact us for any of the modalities we offer you on this website, we will be attention to you, if you were just curiosity, we hope we have made you happy during your visit.

Any dealer who says "contact us for any of the modalities we offer you on this website, we will be attention to you" is a good bet in my book.


I am sure it not the same "A.C.C" AUTOS CLASSIC CARS which was dissolved 2015 - just a coincidence.

And the director has been the director of 18,824 other companies. That's impressive - he must he a one of those serial entrepreneurs...

Edited by OverSteery on Wednesday 6th March 12:40

[williamp]

Number 20 won the race, no?

And that is XK12C/003. So.... its only done 2000 miles. Yes the race was won with over 2200 miles. Must be fake!

What I will say, though: it does have a lovelty patina. If it wasnt adertised as "the real thing" it would have a big appeal to me. But as the long lost, 1951 le mans winning car... no.

[ToneyCaroney]

I'm sure that advert was online a few years ago too. Definitely not the actual '51 car.

[lowdrag]

I'm still around. The three cars that raced in 1952 were XKC 001, 002, and it was long supposed to be 011, but that has since been changed. There is documentary proof that 001 was dismantled for spares on 31/8/53. XKC 002 was also dismantled for spares after an accident in August 1952. My replica was a copy of 002 by the way.


The photo of XKC 003 is definitely a fake. Attached is a copy of the French V5 purporting that this was the real thing, but a close look at the chassis shows that the bottom rails were square and not round. Conclusive proof that this is a Proteus.Hope this helps







Edit:- XKC 003 was dismantled after the Monaco Grand Prix in 1952.

Side louvres. are another interesting point for confirmation. 001 and 002 had four large side louvres, 002 had the standard setup, And just to finish things off, the replica has the same boot closure as any other Proteus.

Edited by lowdrag on Friday 8th March 08:41

[reddiesel]

Fascinating , that fact about the chassis rails