Running In To An Unexpected Ford
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https://www.johnsmotors.co.uk/listings/ford-cortin...
I thought I would post this link of a special Ford I came across today on my way back from Daventry . Surprisingly enough its not the first Jeff Uren confection that I have come across whilst visiting Johns Garage the last being a Savage Mk1 Capri some months back .
I have to admit to much preferring this Mk2 Cortina Version and I don't quite know why . Predating the RS Fords about which we have been having such an interesting discussion I was hoping to hear some opinions or better still experiences of these Fast Fords . I well remember the 1600 E Mk 2 but I don't believe I ever saw one of these in Period outside of a Magazine . What a Cracker .
I thought I would post this link of a special Ford I came across today on my way back from Daventry . Surprisingly enough its not the first Jeff Uren confection that I have come across whilst visiting Johns Garage the last being a Savage Mk1 Capri some months back .
I have to admit to much preferring this Mk2 Cortina Version and I don't quite know why . Predating the RS Fords about which we have been having such an interesting discussion I was hoping to hear some opinions or better still experiences of these Fast Fords . I well remember the 1600 E Mk 2 but I don't believe I ever saw one of these in Period outside of a Magazine . What a Cracker .
The hideous hood scoop ruins the car completely.
The Capri Mk.1/Escort 1300E steering wheel seems an odd thing to put on as well in place of the original 1600E steering wheel, as most people with those wheels on a Crapi or 1300E etc soon threw them in the bin for a better one. Quite why you'd choose to put one of those hideous things in place of the lovely 1600E wheel is baffling to me.
The guy who used to MOT my Sunbeam-Lotus back in the 90's went to work for Jeff Uren in Hanwell building these after he finished his apprenticeship at Fords.
Quite a few Savage owners used to take their cars to him for work as he'd been involved in building them when new.
The Capri Mk.1/Escort 1300E steering wheel seems an odd thing to put on as well in place of the original 1600E steering wheel, as most people with those wheels on a Crapi or 1300E etc soon threw them in the bin for a better one. Quite why you'd choose to put one of those hideous things in place of the lovely 1600E wheel is baffling to me.
The guy who used to MOT my Sunbeam-Lotus back in the 90's went to work for Jeff Uren in Hanwell building these after he finished his apprenticeship at Fords.
Quite a few Savage owners used to take their cars to him for work as he'd been involved in building them when new.
I agree that the bonnet scoop looks a little excessive; I wonder if it's an original fitment on this car, which I see sold at auction 2-years ago for c£40,000.
I've always liked the idea of Uren's cars and this one must be unusual in having had the same owner over a 50-year period. This will probably cause many on here to become apoplectic but I'd probably prefer this to an RS2000. There, I said it
The steering wheel is/was an export-spec safety wheel on the 1600E.
I've always liked the idea of Uren's cars and this one must be unusual in having had the same owner over a 50-year period. This will probably cause many on here to become apoplectic but I'd probably prefer this to an RS2000. There, I said it
The steering wheel is/was an export-spec safety wheel on the 1600E.
TarquinMX5 said:
I agree that the bonnet scoop looks a little excessive; I wonder if it's an original fitment on this car, which I see sold at auction 2-years ago for c£40,000.
I've always liked the idea of Uren's cars and this one must be unusual in having had the same owner over a 50-year period. This will probably cause many on here to become apoplectic but I'd probably prefer this to an RS2000. There, I said it
The steering wheel is/was an export-spec safety wheel on the 1600E.
I agree with you regarding the cars desirability . I also think you have to view the car in period especially regarding the problems of cooling such a "special" making it useable as a daily driver .I've always liked the idea of Uren's cars and this one must be unusual in having had the same owner over a 50-year period. This will probably cause many on here to become apoplectic but I'd probably prefer this to an RS2000. There, I said it
The steering wheel is/was an export-spec safety wheel on the 1600E.
Edited by reddiesel on Friday 2nd February 05:13
Mr Tidy said:
Sorry but the bonnet scoop ruins it for me. 
Maybe in the 90s in Hot Car or Custom Car it would have been OK? Or maybe not even then!
I think you are maybe failing to view the car through your " seventies tinted glasses " and in reality I suppose the term Hot Car is pretty apt .Maybe in the 90s in Hot Car or Custom Car it would have been OK? Or maybe not even then!
reddiesel said:
TarquinMX5 said:
I agree that the bonnet scoop looks a little excessive; I wonder if it's an original fitment on this car, which I see sold at auction 2-years ago for c£40,000.
I've always liked the idea of Uren's cars and this one must be unusual in having had the same owner over a 50-year period. This will probably cause many on here to become apoplectic but I'd probably prefer this to an RS2000. There, I said it
The steering wheel is/was an export-spec safety wheel on the 1600E.
I agree with you regarding the cars desirability . I also think you have to view the car in period especially regarding the problems of cooling such a "special" making it useable as a daily driver .I've always liked the idea of Uren's cars and this one must be unusual in having had the same owner over a 50-year period. This will probably cause many on here to become apoplectic but I'd probably prefer this to an RS2000. There, I said it
The steering wheel is/was an export-spec safety wheel on the 1600E.
Agreed on the bonnet scoop and awful steering wheel.
Not sure a normal bonnet would fit with that cold air intake, understand why it has one, but i think for the sake of a few HP a normal intake and bonnet would make the car, all IMO of course
I like these Savage/Uren Mk 2 Cortina's, should go well with that Rick Wood 3.4 in it.
Not sure a normal bonnet would fit with that cold air intake, understand why it has one, but i think for the sake of a few HP a normal intake and bonnet would make the car, all IMO of course
I like these Savage/Uren Mk 2 Cortina's, should go well with that Rick Wood 3.4 in it.
Mark A S said:
I like these Savage/Uren Mk 2 Cortina's, should go well with that Rick Wood 3.4 in it.
The poor old English axle might object to that 3.4 if used to its potential 
For me its too much retro-Hot Car mag from the late 70's, just missing the revolving red light under the axle and a jack up kit (rear is sitting a little higher as is) but I suspect the previous long term owner was of that generation.
aeropilot said:
Cooling......?
You know exactly what I am talking about . You also know that these cars were very much specials based on existing vehicles done by Companies without the resources of the main manufacturers . To hear you criticise the car over a choice of steering wheel is a complete nonsense . This is a fast Ford that predates the RS Brand and I am glad it exists .reddiesel said:
aeropilot said:
Cooling......?
You know exactly what I am talking about . If you'd bothered to read my earlier post, for a decade or more I actually knew someone that worked at Race Proved building them new, as well as knowing two people that owned them back in the early 80's, and have fond memories of some late night blasts along the A40 (not far from where they were built) in an Aubergine Savage 'tina when we were all yoof's on the way home from the Chelsea Cruise. Great days.
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I'd say its you who don't what you are talking about.
If you'd bothered to read my earlier post, for a decade or more I actually knew someone that worked at Race Proved building them new, as well as knowing two people that owned them back in the early 80's, and have fond memories of some late night blasts along the A40 (not far from where they were built) in an Aubergine Savage 'tina when we were all yoof's on the way home from the Chelsea Cruise. Great days.
I enjoy all your Contributions wherever I come across them but its a pity sometimes you embark on a condescending attitude . On this Thread you never mentioned any of the above though I was hoping that you would . Instead it was some "friend" of a past MOT Tester of yours that had previously worked at Urens .Upon hearing this I was tempted to introduce a bit of humour by asking if you knew Ronnie Kray but thought better of it .
As regards the Scoop and not knowing what I am talking about....I am talking about the need for Airflow , Improved Induction , Cooling , indeed whatever the issues faced by Uren all those years ago in shoehorning such an engine into a MK2 Cortina I think we are all agreed the Scoop wasn't just for show ??
Getting back to the Escort Cosworth in Mallard I bought new from Trimoco many years ago , I well remember driving to Glasgow to show her off to the Old fella who wasn't much impressed by the rear wing arrangement . I went into all the the usual downforce and aerodynamic spiel that in truth I knew absolutely nothing about and the old fella was nothing if not tolerant . A year or so later when I was thinking of offing the car I paid him another visit .
Jumping into the passenger seat he told me he wanted to show me something and about five minutes later we were on Byres Road outside a Restaurant and sat by the kerb was a Radiant Red Escort Cosworth with no rear wing . Apparently the old man had been talking to the Owner who had said the absence of the rear wing made no difference to the handling of the Car and he considered it a bit "too flashy' for his liking .
I never got the chance to ask fellow Owners if this was indeed the case for I sold the car that summer and to date have never owned another Ford . Perhaps someone who has owned the Escort Cosworth will have a view on the above ?? I don't think Urens Scoop falls into the same category but it may do .
I'd say its you who don't what you are talking about.
If you'd bothered to read my earlier post, for a decade or more I actually knew someone that worked at Race Proved building them new, as well as knowing two people that owned them back in the early 80's, and have fond memories of some late night blasts along the A40 (not far from where they were built) in an Aubergine Savage 'tina when we were all yoof's on the way home from the Chelsea Cruise. Great days.
I enjoy all your Contributions wherever I come across them but its a pity sometimes you embark on a condescending attitude . On this Thread you never mentioned any of the above though I was hoping that you would . Instead it was some "friend" of a past MOT Tester of yours that had previously worked at Urens .Upon hearing this I was tempted to introduce a bit of humour by asking if you knew Ronnie Kray but thought better of it .
As regards the Scoop and not knowing what I am talking about....I am talking about the need for Airflow , Improved Induction , Cooling , indeed whatever the issues faced by Uren all those years ago in shoehorning such an engine into a MK2 Cortina I think we are all agreed the Scoop wasn't just for show ??
Getting back to the Escort Cosworth in Mallard I bought new from Trimoco many years ago , I well remember driving to Glasgow to show her off to the Old fella who wasn't much impressed by the rear wing arrangement . I went into all the the usual downforce and aerodynamic spiel that in truth I knew absolutely nothing about and the old fella was nothing if not tolerant . A year or so later when I was thinking of offing the car I paid him another visit .
Jumping into the passenger seat he told me he wanted to show me something and about five minutes later we were on Byres Road outside a Restaurant and sat by the kerb was a Radiant Red Escort Cosworth with no rear wing . Apparently the old man had been talking to the Owner who had said the absence of the rear wing made no difference to the handling of the Car and he considered it a bit "too flashy' for his liking .
I never got the chance to ask fellow Owners if this was indeed the case for I sold the car that summer and to date have never owned another Ford . Perhaps someone who has owned the Escort Cosworth will have a view on the above ?? I don't think Urens Scoop falls into the same category but it may do .
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