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https://www.mathewsons.co.uk/auction/lot/lot-237--...
V5 says RS2000, chassis plate says Halewood built 1300.
Car speaks for itself.
V5 says RS2000, chassis plate says Halewood built 1300.
Car speaks for itself.
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Mark A S said:
VERY nice car, awful colour combo, RS2 log book on a donor shell, nowt wrong with that so long as its made clear.
Which chassis number is on the V5 though...?If its the one on the black/silver VIN plate under the bonnet, then the V5 is incorrect in saying its a RS2000......(but that's DVLA's error)
If the logbook is from a real RS2000, and has a BFAT chassis number, then the donor shell BBAT chassis plate should be removed as there is a conflict in VIN between V5 and what is on the car......which I believe is not legal...?
Edited by aeropilot on Tuesday 30th January 11:40
Skyedriver said:
Ad says Type 49 shell
So someone is maybe telling little fibs?
Describing it as a RS2000 is one for a start!So someone is maybe telling little fibs?
Normally, from the TV series they are pretty careful when describing cars that have had a reshell as being an evocation etc., which they did for that bubble arch Twin Cam (which was a re-shell of a genuine car) as well as that Lotus-Cortina, which again, I've heard was a period re-shell of a genuine car, and thus perhaps over cautious from a legal pov.
And yet, here they are doing the opposite to a car that is so clearly not what they are calling it....maybe because this one isn't on the TV show, so no need for the legal caution?
TBH, if it wasn't for the silver RS style stripe kit applied it wouldn't look a bad car, and if the shell is OK etc., 15-20k is its likely price.
It identity though is questionable, especially with that fake, restamped Ford VIN plate.
All auction houses put out disclaimers. It's a bit like market hall rules, caveat emptor and all that.
Only if the description is blatantly wrong would you have grounds to not complete the purchase. I saw this at CCA once, the auction description and photos of a Ford Sierra had made no mention of the galloping rust on the wheel arches, not even putting the catch-all 'requires cosmetic attention.'
The car got entered in the next auction with more accuracy, this was all in 2020 when there was not attendance possible.
This is theirs:
"Photographs are helpful but often not accurate. Videos are informative but are opinions only. No amount of images will ever replace the benefits of pre-auction viewing. Buyers are invited and encouraged to inspect prior to bidding."
Also from T+C
Any motor vehicle is sold as a collector’s item and not as a means of transport. Buyers are
specifically warned that any vehicle sold as such may well have had parts replaced and paint
renewed or be made up of parts from other vehicles the condition of which may be difficult to
establish. The Auctioneer has to rely on information as to the date, condition and authenticity
provided by the Seller and does not provide its own description, and does not and cannot
undertake its own inspection of vehicles or other Lot and it is the responsibility of the Buyer
to ensure that the Lot conforms to the description in the catalogue. The Auctioneer cannot
check or verify the authenticity of the chassis or VIN number under which a vehicle is offered,
but relies on the Seller’s description.
Only if the description is blatantly wrong would you have grounds to not complete the purchase. I saw this at CCA once, the auction description and photos of a Ford Sierra had made no mention of the galloping rust on the wheel arches, not even putting the catch-all 'requires cosmetic attention.'
The car got entered in the next auction with more accuracy, this was all in 2020 when there was not attendance possible.This is theirs:
"Photographs are helpful but often not accurate. Videos are informative but are opinions only. No amount of images will ever replace the benefits of pre-auction viewing. Buyers are invited and encouraged to inspect prior to bidding."
Also from T+C
Any motor vehicle is sold as a collector’s item and not as a means of transport. Buyers are
specifically warned that any vehicle sold as such may well have had parts replaced and paint
renewed or be made up of parts from other vehicles the condition of which may be difficult to
establish. The Auctioneer has to rely on information as to the date, condition and authenticity
provided by the Seller and does not provide its own description, and does not and cannot
undertake its own inspection of vehicles or other Lot and it is the responsibility of the Buyer
to ensure that the Lot conforms to the description in the catalogue. The Auctioneer cannot
check or verify the authenticity of the chassis or VIN number under which a vehicle is offered,
but relies on the Seller’s description.
Edited by sixor8 on Wednesday 31st January 11:24
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