A Dignified Carriage For A Gentleman

A Dignified Carriage For A Gentleman

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reddiesel

Original Poster:

2,309 posts

52 months

Friday 22nd December 2023
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/235353872205?hash=item3...


The beautiful Majestic Major , so much more exclusivity than a contemporary Silver Shadow and unlike the DS never devalued by being painted white and used as a Wedding Car . I always felt they were perpetually overshadowed by some of Lyons finest creations but what a wonderful machine that's stood the passage of time surprisingly well and this one I think is sublime

Mercdriver

2,438 posts

38 months

Friday 22nd December 2023
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I think that had a pre selector gearbox like the old Daimler buses.

You selected the required gear then depressed the gear pedal, not a clutch pedal, down and up and it changed to that gear. You could then select but not engage next gear.

Drove one once took getting used to, unless you were a bus driver I suppose

Super Sonic

6,767 posts

59 months

Friday 22nd December 2023
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Reminds me of an old BL advert, a chauffeur is polishing his d.s. and a tourist holding a map asks ''what's the best way to get to Buckingham palace?"...

Mr Tidy

23,767 posts

132 months

Friday 22nd December 2023
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Lovely, complete with a 4.5 litre Turner designed V8 that Jaguar management buried thanks to their devotion to the XK engine. frown

Wacky Racer

38,731 posts

252 months

Friday 22nd December 2023
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Mr Tidy said:
Lovely, complete with a 4.5 litre Turner designed V8 that Jaguar management buried thanks to their devotion to the XK engine. frown
Fun fact:-

Edward Turner also designed The Ariel Square four and Triumph Bonneville motorcycle engines.

GoodOlBoy

569 posts

108 months

Friday 22nd December 2023
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Mr Tidy said:
Lovely, complete with a 4.5 litre Turner designed V8 that Jaguar management buried thanks to their devotion to the XK engine. frown
Jaguar made more than 17,000 Daimler V8 engines and invested in adapting the Mk2 Jaguar body to take them.

It sold more than any previous Daimler saloon.

Mr Tidy

23,767 posts

132 months

Friday 22nd December 2023
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Wacky Racer said:
Mr Tidy said:
Lovely, complete with a 4.5 litre Turner designed V8 that Jaguar management buried thanks to their devotion to the XK engine. frown
Fun fact:-

Edward Turner also designed The Ariel Square four and Triumph Bonneville motorcycle engines.
I know, but as Meatloaf said 2 out of 3 ain't bad!

I think square 4s had some issues laugh

hidetheelephants

27,207 posts

198 months

Friday 22nd December 2023
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Hardly a contemporary of the Shadow, the design dates from the 1950s.
Mercdriver said:
I think that had a pre selector gearbox like the old Daimler buses.

You selected the required gear then depressed the gear pedal, not a clutch pedal, down and up and it changed to that gear. You could then select but not engage next gear.

Drove one once took getting used to, unless you were a bus driver I suppose
The V8 only came with a slushbox, by the time it was introduced autos had been perfected so not much call for pre-selectors.
Mr Tidy said:
I know, but as Meatloaf said 2 out of 3 ain't bad!

I think square 4s had some issues laugh
Mainly a lack of water cooling, even running the rear cylinders with increased piston/bore clearance won't let it be tuned much as they don't cool properly; fine for lumbering around towing a sidecar the size of a pantechnicon but not much else, especially with wobbly sliding pillar suspension.

Rumdoodle

898 posts

25 months

Friday 22nd December 2023
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"This car belongs to the Pakistani ambassador!"

Mercdriver

2,438 posts

38 months

Friday 22nd December 2023
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Oops you are correct, three speed auto, must have been an earlier Daimler, maybe even a lanchester so long ago!

Huntsman

8,149 posts

255 months

Friday 22nd December 2023
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I followed a Majestic Major a few months back, the fellow driving must have just robbed a bank, he was roaring about the place, I was laughing my head off in pursuit.


hidetheelephants

27,207 posts

198 months

Friday 22nd December 2023
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Mercdriver said:
Oops you are correct, three speed auto, must have been an earlier Daimler, maybe even a lanchester so long ago!
More or less all prior to the Major had preselector either as an option to a manual or as standard; the Majestic which is the same car but with the big straight six and the smaller Conquest etc.

Stick Legs

5,604 posts

170 months

Friday 22nd December 2023
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Rumdoodle said:
"This car belongs to the Pakistani ambassador!"
biglaugh

“…and the Pakistani ambassador is a very nice man.”


AMGSee55

663 posts

107 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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I love all sorts of classics, including ones whose styling could best be described as 'challenging' e.g. Bristol 412, but I just can't summon any love for these. I know they are properly quick by the standards of their time and I'm sure very comfortable, but the front and rear thirds of the car look they were designed by 2 guys who never met. To each their own I guess wink

Rufus Stone

7,344 posts

61 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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reddiesel said:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/235353872205?hash=item3...


The beautiful Majestic Major , so much more exclusivity than a contemporary Silver Shadow and unlike the DS never devalued by being painted white and used as a Wedding Car . I always felt they were perpetually overshadowed by some of Lyons finest creations but what a wonderful machine that's stood the passage of time surprisingly well and this one I think is sublime
Hate classified ads which turn out to be an auction sale elsewhere. grumpy

Watcher of the skies

586 posts

42 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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AMGSee55 said:
I love all sorts of classics, including ones whose styling could best be described as 'challenging' e.g. Bristol 412, but I just can't summon any love for these. I know they are properly quick by the standards of their time and I'm sure very comfortable, but the front and rear thirds of the car look they were designed by 2 guys who never met. To each their own I guess wink
Boot designed by Chris Bangle?
Wonderful car though.

hidetheelephants

27,207 posts

198 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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AMGSee55 said:
I love all sorts of classics, including ones whose styling could best be described as 'challenging' e.g. Bristol 412, but I just can't summon any love for these. I know they are properly quick by the standards of their time and I'm sure very comfortable, but the front and rear thirds of the car look they were designed by 2 guys who never met. To each their own I guess wink
It's more or less a stretched Lanchester 14, which is a proper noddy car and became old fashioned quickly due to the speed at which car styling changed in that era; the Morris Minor was released a couple of years earlier in 1948, but more 'modern' cars were appearing at the same time, the Riley Pathfinder/Wolseley 6/90 in 1953, then the Rootes "Audax" cars like the 1956 Hillman Minx etc, the decade ending with cars like the BMC Pininfarina styled cars appeared from 1958 with the Austin A40 etc.

anonymous-user

59 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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Love it! Looks like a gangsters car from an old Bond film.

dontlookdown

1,898 posts

98 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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GoodOlBoy said:
Mr Tidy said:
Lovely, complete with a 4.5 litre Turner designed V8 that Jaguar management buried thanks to their devotion to the XK engine. frown
Jaguar made more than 17,000 Daimler V8 engines and invested in adapting the Mk2 Jaguar body to take them.

It sold more than any previous Daimler saloon.
True, but that was the shrunken 2.5 version. The 4.5 was surely one of the finest engines of its day and certainly more modern than the XK. it's a shame it didn't see wider use.

Mercdriver

2,438 posts

38 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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hidetheelephants said:
It's more or less a stretched Lanchester 14, which is a proper noddy car and became old fashioned quickly due to the speed at which car styling changed in that era; the Morris Minor was released a couple of years earlier in 1948, but more 'modern' cars were appearing at the same time, the Riley Pathfinder/Wolseley 6/90 in 1953, etc.
I had a Riley 2.6 poor copy of pathfinder from BMC in the late 60’s. straight 6 engine with gear lever between drivers seat and door, popular with Riley. I had a column change standard vanguard before took a bit of getting used to.

In the 90’s local garage had one advertised, ah memories I thought I might buy it. Oh dear dreadful to drive just showed how much cars had improved.