The past is a foreign country...

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coppice

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8,835 posts

149 months

Wednesday 1st November 2023
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they do things differently there ...as LP Hartley wrote. And he was right , as this photo of dad's Humber Hawk -MKV1 I think ? - being loaded on to the Stranraer -Larne ferry shows. My sister has recently exhumed this picture , and it evokes memories of stormy crossing and a car which always smelled of sick - she was to blame as a one year old. I was a world weary 8 , in that long lost era before Ro Ro ferries .




nicanary

10,065 posts

151 months

Wednesday 1st November 2023
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When Bristol Freighters started flying cars cross-channel it must have seemed like the space race.

NFT

1,324 posts

27 months

Wednesday 1st November 2023
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Times gone by..., Kids these days have no idea how good and luxuriously they have it.

ferret50

1,439 posts

14 months

Wednesday 1st November 2023
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nicanary said:
When Bristol Freighters started flying cars cross-channel it must have seemed like the space race.
Lydd airfield early 1960's as the aircraft started to taxi;

'Daddy, why is your new A55 still in the carpark?'
'Do not be so stupid, young ferret50!'
'Look daddy!'
'Oh st!'

Father rushes to the flight deck, aircraft is turned back, one car unloaded and a black A55 added!

biglaugh

But so much quicker and easier than the Dover/Calais ferry.

aeropilot

36,100 posts

232 months

Wednesday 1st November 2023
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coppice said:
they do things differently there ...as LP Hartley wrote. And he was right , as this photo of dad's Humber Hawk -MKV1 I think ? - being loaded on to the Stranraer -Larne ferry shows. My sister has recently exhumed this picture , and it evokes memories of stormy crossing and a car which always smelled of sick - she was to blame as a one year old. I was a world weary 8 , in that long lost era before Ro Ro ferries .

I spy a nice Zodiac Mk.II convertible on the dockside...very exotic for that part of the world at the time laugh

nismo48

4,238 posts

212 months

Thursday 2nd November 2023
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NFT said:
Times gone by..., Kids these days have no idea how good and luxuriously they have it.
Got two grown up daughters who've never had it so good wink

coppice

Original Poster:

8,835 posts

149 months

Thursday 2nd November 2023
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NFT said:
Times gone by..., Kids these days have no idea how good and luxuriously they have it.
But it was equally true when I was nine and had just boarded the ferry all those years ago in 1961 ... Crikey , I'd travelled in a Humber , which had a heater, wind up windows ,comfy seats , and performance which would have felt like a spaceship to the little lad of 1901 - which - Jesus - was closer then than 1961 is to now .

Mr Tidy

23,767 posts

132 months

Thursday 2nd November 2023
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I love that photo. thumbup

Funnily enough I was only thinking about the Hoverspeed service from Folkestone today when I saw pictures of the weather down there.

I lived in Kent in the 90s and did quite a few booze cruises, often on the hovercraft. It was much quicker than the ferry, but could get a bit bouncy!

Riley Blue

21,430 posts

231 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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In the late 1950s my parents, twin sisters and I went on a holiday to Guernsey on the TSS St Julien from Weymouth. It had been built on Clydebank in 1925, serving during WW2 as a troop ship, hospital ship and at Dunkirk.

The passenger 'accommodation' consisted of deck chairs and blankets on deck and after the crossing my Dad, who had served in the RN throughout WW2 said it rolled more than any other ship he'd been on (not my photo).


Allan L

793 posts

110 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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Having developed a profound dislike of ships as a means of travel I was pleased to use the Silver City Lydd-Le Touquet service in 1959 (and again in 1962). After some years of using various cross-channel ferries someone thoughtfully provided me with a Hovercraft service, the choppy ride of which was better than the wallowy ride of the ships. Since 1994 I can and do use the tunnel.

Elderly

3,533 posts

243 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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nicanary said:
When Bristol Freighters started flying cars cross-channel it must have seemed like the space race.
A friend and I drove from Le Touquet down to Malaga in the late '60's in his Marcos.

The car's ground clearance meant that It was too low to traverse from the top of the ramp into the Bristol Freighter
and had to be manhandled in !



Jordie Barretts sock

5,829 posts

24 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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Riley Blue said:
In the late 1950s my parents, twin sisters and I went on a holiday to Guernsey on the TSS St Julien from Weymouth. It had been built on Clydebank in 1925, serving during WW2 as a troop ship, hospital ship and at Dunkirk.

The passenger 'accommodation' consisted of deck chairs and blankets on deck and after the crossing my Dad, who had served in the RN throughout WW2 said it rolled more than any other ship he'd been on (not my photo).

What does TSS stand for please?

littleredrooster

5,648 posts

201 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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Jordie Barretts sock said:
What does TSS stand for please?
Twin-Screw Steamship, according to Wiki

Jordie Barretts sock

5,829 posts

24 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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Thank you! thumbup

Elderly

3,533 posts

243 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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Mr Tidy said:
Funnily enough I was only thinking about the Hoverspeed service from Folkestone today when I saw pictures of the weather down there.

, ……. but could get a bit bouncy!
I once did that crossing up in the cockpit/bridge of a Hoverspeed craft.

I climbed a vertical steel ladder and through a hatch which was then bolted behind me.

The bridge/cockpit was smelly, very noisy, and extremely bumpy.

The crew said that the ‘bounce’ played havoc with their backs.

Their job seemed so unpleasant and boring;
there were four fuel tanks ( one towards each corner )
and they spent the whole time pumping fuel around between tanks
to alter the aspect of the craft to suit the wind direction, speed and wave height.

The Goodwin Sands were especially bouncy; I don’t suffer from sea sickness
but I was very relieved when the journey was over and the hatch was opened.

Edited by Elderly on Friday 3rd November 13:55

alfaspecial

1,161 posts

145 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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Elderly said:
nicanary said:
When Bristol Freighters started flying cars cross-channel it must have seemed like the space race.
A friend and I drove from Le Touquet down to Malaga in the late '60's in his Marcos.

The car's ground clearance meant that It was too low to traverse from the top of the ramp into the Bristol Freighter
and had to be manhandled in !


The (way to) Go-Between the UK and the continent was just so different not so many years ago:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_Ferry

Essel

484 posts

151 months

Saturday 4th November 2023
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Riley Blue said:
In the late 1950s my parents, twin sisters and I went on a holiday to Guernsey on the TSS St Julien from Weymouth. It had been built on Clydebank in 1925, serving during WW2 as a troop ship, hospital ship and at Dunkirk.

The passenger 'accommodation' consisted of deck chairs and blankets on deck and after the crossing my Dad, who had served in the RN throughout WW2
We went the same route in the mid sixties a couple of times, they must have changed ships by then, as we certainly had inside lounges. I do remember being very ill on the way back once, so they probably kept the rolling!
They were still loading cars the same way though - my dad left ours in Weymouth and we hired bikes.

hilly10

7,276 posts

233 months

Saturday 4th November 2023
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Elderly said:
A friend and I drove from Le Touquet down to Malaga in the late '60's in his Marcos.

The car's ground clearance meant that It was too low to traverse from the top of the ramp into the Bristol Freighter
and had to be manhandled in !


Can you remember the cost, must have been a pretty penny.

Panamax

4,678 posts

39 months

Saturday 4th November 2023
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The days when you could travel to France for a weekend without even needing a passport; just a quick photo ID made up at the ticket office. That's how the Cambridge spies, Burgess and Maclean, slipped the country back in the day.

Now you almost need a passport just to get your own money out of the bank.

Allan L

793 posts

110 months

Saturday 4th November 2023
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hilly10 said:
Can you remember the cost, must have been a pretty penny.
The cars were charged at the same rate as the ships were charging, but IATA Rules required them to charge "normal airline rates" for the people, which was £3 (in 1962) if memory is to be trusted.