Ex-Colin McRae Subaru Legacy RS

[Muzzer79]

1992 British championship-winning rally car. Rothmans colours

https://www.iconicauctioneers.com/1992-subaru-lega...

Sold today at Silverstone Auctions for £370k

Thought it would make a bit more tbh

[555 Paul]

That seems like a bargain to me.

[Richard-390a0]

I would think for some his legacy is tainted for what happened with the helicopter, which could be a reason for the suppressed price. (Only just below the guide price range).

[CRA1G]

Muzzer79 said:

1992 British championship-winning rally car. Rothmans colours

https://www.iconicauctioneers.com/1992-subaru-lega...

Sold today at Silverstone Auctions for £370k

Thought it would make a bit more tbh

Mind you there's £53400 fees to add to that.....

[ZedLeg]

I think it's just the case that the Legacy isn't as well known as the Imprezas.

I'm curious to see what the 22B goes for. I wouldn't be surprised if it gets close to £1mil.

[Muzzer79]

Richard-390a0 said:

I would think for some his legacy is tainted for what happened with the helicopter, which could be a reason for the suppressed price. (Only just below the guide price range).

Considering his ex-works Ford Focus sold for a world-record price of over 400 grand last year, I doubt that.

I would think it's due to it being a Legacy, rather than the Impreza which he was synonymous with. Also, it was used in the British championship only.

[fttm]

His Sunbeam went for 90k and it wasn't the original McRae shell , madness .

[4rephill]

Richard-390a0 said:

I would think for some his legacy is tainted for what happened with the helicopter, which could be a reason for the suppressed price. (Only just below the guide price range).

I suspect the number of people who remember the details of the helicopter crash, and hold it against Colin McRae, is in reality very small, and that the vast majority of "car" people just remember his exploits and feats in the various rally cars he drove.

And when it comes to people who can actually afford to buy an ex-Colin McRae car (they don't come cheap!), the number who hold the helicopter crash against him is minute!

[S600BSB]

Why is his family selling off his cars?

[Voldemort]

4rephill said:

Richard-390a0 said:

I would think for some his legacy is tainted for what happened with the helicopter, which could be a reason for the suppressed price. (Only just below the guide price range).

I suspect the number of people who remember the details of the helicopter crash, and hold it against Colin McRae, is in reality very small, and that the vast majority of "car" people just remember his exploits and feats in the various rally cars he drove.

And when it comes to people who can actually afford to buy an ex-Colin McRae car (they don't come cheap!), the number who hold the helicopter crash against him is minute!

Conversely, the people who seem able to look beyond his crash and say 'never mind him killing himself, his kid and his kids' friend by flying without the necessary licence and flying like a dick, he was a great rally driver' do themselves no favours in my book.

[Dynion Araf Uchaf]

S600BSB said:

Why is his family selling off his cars?

Funding Max McRae at a guess

[Dynion Araf Uchaf]

Voldemort said:

Conversely, the people who seem able to look beyond his crash and say 'never mind him killing himself, his kid and his kids' friend by flying without the necessary licence and flying like a dick, he was a great rally driver' do themselves no favours in my book.

Let’s unpack that comment shall we?

Firstly Colin McRae led a fantastic life right up until the last 20 mins of it.

Not having a licence did not impact the crash, he could fly a helicopter the licence whilst required by law did not impact his ability to fly

He has a high risk occupation and was operating at the highest risk, all the time. He couldn’t have been WDC without that attitude to risk, so I am not remotely suprised he crashed the helicopter. Just like a driving licence, it only judges you ability on the day of the test not for life.

His family have to bear the loss of Jonnie and friends. I feel very sorry for Alison who in amongst hearing what a legend Colin was has to reconcile the loss of her son.

In summary he was vastly more than that terrible mistake, and was only that man, because of his attitude to risk.

So you’re wrong.

[ClaphamGT3]

4rephill said:

Richard-390a0 said:

I would think for some his legacy is tainted for what happened with the helicopter, which could be a reason for the suppressed price. (Only just below the guide price range).

I suspect the number of people who remember the details of the helicopter crash, and hold it against Colin McRae, is in reality very small, and that the vast majority of "car" people just remember his exploits and feats in the various rally cars he drove.

And when it comes to people who can actually afford to buy an ex-Colin McRae car (they don't come cheap!), the number who hold the helicopter crash against him is minute!

I suspect, in reality, it's the other way round; a small and dwindling number of rally anoraks will still see him as a hero figure and pay a premium for a car he drove.

Most people (including car collectors) will, if they remember him at all, remember him as that pillock who flew a helicopter that he wasn't licenced to fly like a tw*t and killed two innocent kids in the process

[ZedLeg]

ClaphamGT3 said:

I suspect, in reality, it's the other way round; a small and dwindling number of rally anoraks will still see him as a hero figure and pay a premium for a car he drove.

Most people (including car collectors) will, if they remember him at all, remember him as that pillock who flew a helicopter that he wasn't licenced to fly like a tw*t and killed two innocent kids in the process

I don't know, I think it's very likely that it's just angry dudes on the internet who think that. I've had many conversations about Colin McRae over the years and never heard anything like you've said.

[S600BSB]

ClaphamGT3 said:

4rephill said:

Richard-390a0 said:

I would think for some his legacy is tainted for what happened with the helicopter, which could be a reason for the suppressed price. (Only just below the guide price range).

I suspect the number of people who remember the details of the helicopter crash, and hold it against Colin McRae, is in reality very small, and that the vast majority of "car" people just remember his exploits and feats in the various rally cars he drove.

And when it comes to people who can actually afford to buy an ex-Colin McRae car (they don't come cheap!), the number who hold the helicopter crash against him is minute!

I suspect, in reality, it's the other way round; a small and dwindling number of rally anoraks will still see him as a hero figure and pay a premium for a car he drove.

Most people (including car collectors) will, if they remember him at all, remember him as that pillock who flew a helicopter that he wasn't licenced to fly like a tw*t and killed two innocent kids in the process

Sadly I think you are spot on.

[Muzzer79]

ZedLeg said:

ClaphamGT3 said:

I suspect, in reality, it's the other way round; a small and dwindling number of rally anoraks will still see him as a hero figure and pay a premium for a car he drove.

Most people (including car collectors) will, if they remember him at all, remember him as that pillock who flew a helicopter that he wasn't licenced to fly like a tw*t and killed two innocent kids in the process

I don't know, I think it's very likely that it's just angry dudes on the internet who think that. I've had many conversations about Colin McRae over the years and never heard anything like you've said.

Yeah, this….

[ClaphamGT3]

ZedLeg said:

I don't know, I think it's very likely that it's just angry dudes on the internet who think that. I've had many conversations about Colin McRae over the years and never heard anything like you've said.

Really, every thread on her where the guy gets mentioned follows the same format - small group of uncritical fan boys and the bulk of posters saying hang on, wasn't he that bloke who crashed his helicopter and killed a bunch of people?

[ZedLeg]

ClaphamGT3 said:

ZedLeg said:

I don't know, I think it's very likely that it's just angry dudes on the internet who think that. I've had many conversations about Colin McRae over the years and never heard anything like you've said.

Really, every thread on her where the guy gets mentioned follows the same format - small group of uncritical fan boys and the bulk of posters saying hang on, wasn't he that bloke who crashed his helicopter and killed a bunch of people?

This place isn't real life though. It's a bunch of angry middle aged dudes on the internet.

[Voldemort]

Dynion Araf Uchaf said:

Voldemort said:

Conversely, the people who seem able to look beyond his crash and say 'never mind him killing himself, his kid and his kids' friend by flying without the necessary licence and flying like a dick, he was a great rally driver' do themselves no favours in my book.

Let’s unpack that comment shall we?

Firstly Colin McRae led a fantastic life right up until the last 20 mins of it.

Not having a licence did not impact the crash, he could fly a helicopter the licence whilst required by law did not impact his ability to fly

He has a high risk occupation and was operating at the highest risk, all the time. He couldn’t have been WDC without that attitude to risk, so I am not remotely suprised he crashed the helicopter. Just like a driving licence, it only judges you ability on the day of the test not for life.

His family have to bear the loss of Jonnie and friends. I feel very sorry for Alison who in amongst hearing what a legend Colin was has to reconcile the loss of her son.

In summary he was vastly more than that terrible mistake, and was only that man, because of his attitude to risk.

So you’re wrong.

The AAIB disagree with you there, but - hey - what would they know about it?

https://www.gov.uk/aaib-reports/eurocopter-as350b2...

[Dynion Araf Uchaf]

It doesn’t say anything of the sort. It states the facts that his licence had expired, it does not say that was the cause of the accident.

But what do you know.