Can a Steel Bolt Be Welded into a Cast Iron Manifold?

Can a Steel Bolt Be Welded into a Cast Iron Manifold?

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Keep it stiff

Original Poster:

1,781 posts

178 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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I have a three stud cast iron manifold, all three studs snapped off when I tried to remove them. I have drilled out to 8mm and bolts pass through however for one of the three the curvature means that I can't get a nut on. My thoughts are to use nut/bolts as two fixings and have the third stud welded in. I don't weld and I'm told that cast is very tricky.

Mikeeb

429 posts

123 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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You can’t tap them and use larger studs?

mwstewart

7,906 posts

193 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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You can do it. It isn't ideal due to the carbon content in the iron, but it should be OK just to hold an exhaust stud in place.

The cast part needs to be heated first.

Keep it stiff

Original Poster:

1,781 posts

178 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Mikeeb said:
You can’t tap them and use larger studs?
That is an option.

Ambleton

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197 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Use a keensert.

It's like a helicoil on steroids, they're used all the time in castings in OE, motorsport etc.

tapkaJohnD

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209 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Keep it stiff

Original Poster:

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Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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tapkaJohnD said:
Very useful, mind you my workshop is a bit more basic! Thanks for posting.

piecost76

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179 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Ambleton said:
Use a keensert.

It's like a helicoil on steroids, they're used all the time in castings in OE, motorsport etc.
Or a Wurth Time Sert

https://eshop.wurth.co.uk/Product-categories/Threa...

Ambleton

6,858 posts

197 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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piecost76 said:
Ambleton said:
Use a keensert.

It's like a helicoil on steroids, they're used all the time in castings in OE, motorsport etc.
Or a Wurth Time Sert

https://eshop.wurth.co.uk/Product-categories/Threa...
There's loads of variants in a similar theme. BMW do (or certainly used to) use Kobserts, but they require fairly specialist tooling. They're pretty cool though.

ferret50

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14 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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tapkaJohnD said:
Very good, thanks for sharing.....love the pooch....