Vauxhall Frontera - ahead of its time or worst car ever?

Vauxhall Frontera - ahead of its time or worst car ever?

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Panamax

Original Poster:

4,682 posts

39 months

Friday 19th May 2023
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My vote - ahead of its time as the first crossover SUV.

Check out this link,
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/vauxhall/97626/vauxh...

Keen PHers will recognise a connection from the recent Lotus Elan M100 thread, namely General Motors and Isuzu.

"The Vauxhall Frontera was the product of another misguided partnership, this time between Vauxhall's parent firm General Motors and Japanese maker Isuzu. GM used Isuzu's 4x4 expertise to create its own SUV for Europe. The car was sold across the globe under assorted names."


Levin

2,042 posts

129 months

Friday 19th May 2023
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I don't see how these are anything other than ahead of their time. Apart from a Range Rover, what else could you have bought on a J plate quite like a Frontera? You could have bought a Pajero, but it lacked the lifestyle appeal. It's like how you can buy a Transporter or a Transit but only one will get you nods from the camper/surfer crowd.

For me, it's gotta be the pre-facelift. I've always found something cool about that era of Frontera. Inexplicably, for much the same reason, I find the Vauxhall Brava oddly cool.


soad

33,290 posts

181 months

Friday 19th May 2023
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They were popular enough at the time, fleet at the York Racecourse etc.

Then there’s that chap who took up the Welsh mountain (twice?), and got jailed for it. hehe

Rumdoodle

898 posts

25 months

Friday 19th May 2023
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Levin said:
Apart from a Range Rover, what else could you have bought on a J plate quite like a Frontera? You could have bought a Pajero, but it lacked the lifestyle appeal.
Obviously, the Lamborghini LM002. But, by the time the Frontera was launched, the Lambo was getting a bit long in the tooth, so I guess that's why buyers went for the Vauxhall.

InitialDave

12,163 posts

124 months

Friday 19th May 2023
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I had a Frontera Sport, I do quite like them, and I think for things of that early 90s period, they had a lot of potential.

To my mind they were a decent inherent design let down by just not being nailed together very well.

The 2.0 petrol was also lacklustre in what was a noticeably chunkier machine than, say, a Suzuki Vitara.

Shappers24

847 posts

91 months

Friday 19th May 2023
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The RAV4 released in 1994 is considered by many as the first ‘SUV’ as we know it now… it was the first soft off-roader to use a car body instead of a separate body and chassis.

In that respect was the frontera the forerunner for SUV’s as we know them now? It was a rebadged Isuzu for a start.

Truckosaurus

11,845 posts

289 months

Friday 19th May 2023
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Shappers24 said:
The RAV4 released in 1994 is considered by many as the first ‘SUV’ as we know it now… it was the first soft off-roader to use a car body instead of a separate body and chassis.

In that respect was the frontera the forerunner for SUV’s as we know them now? It was a rebadged Isuzu for a start.
The 'XJ' Jeep Cherokee was a unibody in the mid-80s. Although mid not be soft enough to be a soft-roader/crossover.

I suspect the tipping point for SUVs in the UK was the Suzuki Vitara.

biggbn

24,545 posts

225 months

Friday 19th May 2023
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Had a 2.8 sport from 96, first of the irs models, absolutely brilliant thing, we loved it!!

Unexpected Item In The Bagging Area

7,108 posts

194 months

Friday 19th May 2023
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The Matra Rancho was a very early crossover - SUV looks without the underpinnings.

InitialDave

12,163 posts

124 months

Friday 19th May 2023
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biggbn said:
Had a 2.8 sport from 96, first of the irs models, absolutely brilliant thing, we loved it!!
Do you mean rear coils?

They were always a live axle in the back.

Richtea1970

1,302 posts

65 months

Friday 19th May 2023
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I have actually had 3 Fonteras in my time, first one on a J Plate, and then a couple of ‘new shapes’ on a W plate. At the time I had 2 kids a dog and went on caravan holidays, so it was an absolute do it all vehicle. A bit agricultural but had a lot of on road presence. They were also the first car I had with heated seats! So I loved them.

However, I’ve also owned 2 Dodge Nitro’s too and I loved them too, so I’ve maybe not got the best of taste getmecoat

SimonTheSailor

12,681 posts

233 months

Friday 19th May 2023
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Unexpected Item In The Bagging Area said:
The Matra Rancho was a very early crossover - SUV looks without the underpinnings.
But utterly, utterly sh*t ?

anonymous-user

59 months

Friday 19th May 2023
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The same Frontera that would suffer from a twisted chassis off road and the rear window would pop out?

SimonTheSailor

12,681 posts

233 months

Friday 19th May 2023
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Levin said:
Inexplicably, for much the same reason, I find the Vauxhall Brava oddly cool.

My father worked in a Vauxhall/Opel/Bedford dealer ....

I cleaned many a Bedford pick up - which I believe was a rather good Izusu pick up truck ?

N111BJG

1,133 posts

68 months

Friday 19th May 2023
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I had an N Reg SWB Frontera Sport when it was about 3 years old. I px’d a BMW E34 525i to get it.

Me & kids loved it, especially when we removed the roof & side glass.

Not as good as my SWB Pajero J Top that I got a few years later, but that was a 3000 V6.

Dapster

7,284 posts

185 months

Friday 19th May 2023
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The TV advert was amazing!

https://youtu.be/GJf65U4i8EU

biggbn

24,545 posts

225 months

Friday 19th May 2023
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InitialDave said:
biggbn said:
Had a 2.8 sport from 96, first of the irs models, absolutely brilliant thing, we loved it!!
Do you mean rear coils?

They were always a live axle in the back.
That woukd be it then. No leaf springs.

samoht

6,060 posts

151 months

Friday 19th May 2023
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I don't see anything avant-garde about the Frontera, it was just another ladder-chassis live-axle off-roader. There were plenty of such 'first wave' SUVs, the Discovery, Range Rover, Trooper, Shogun, Fourtrak/Sportrak, Patrol, Landcruiser etc around at the time. At the time Vauxhall launched it, it had already been out in Japan as an Isuzu for two years.

As stated, the monocoque independent suspension RAV4 was the first of the second-wave SUVs / soft-roaders. Arguably the Qashqai was the key car in the third wave of true crossovers, which took another step back towards regular family cars, and ended up all but replacing them.

Arguably the Frontera had a certain style which let it find a market, plus being built in Britain. It could be considered the apogee of taking a piece of agricultural engineering and using the power of marketing an outdoor active image to sell it as the ideal family vehicle.

AKjr

469 posts

16 months

Friday 19th May 2023
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My parents ran one as their second car, an R reg/1997 model, three doors and a dark, flat blue which was a nice colour in fairness. It was a bag of st; slow and thirsty.

I just looked it up on the Government MOT checker and it appears to have gone to the scrappers in 2009, it's last MOT being in November 2008 on 78,864 miles, good riddance.

valiant

11,108 posts

165 months

Friday 19th May 2023
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Didn’t these destroy their gearboxes just for fun?

My sister had one back in the day and to say it’s reliability was questionable would be a masterclass in understatement.