Rolls Royce ID

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TheBALDpuma

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Saturday 4th March 2023
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I was just flicking through an old photo album and found this picture of my great great grandad next to the Rolls he drove as a chauffeur. I'm no good with old stuff, can someone tell me the model?


Plinth

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93 months

Saturday 4th March 2023
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I think that it's a 1929 20hp model.
Not sure who made the body.

TarquinMX5

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85 months

Saturday 4th March 2023
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I agree about it being a 20(HP), which was produced from 1922-29, with the horizontal grille slats being a give-away, though the last of them had vertical slats.

The regn is a 1926 London number and my best guess is that it's a Barker body; I can find very similar Barker bodies but not exactly the same, though that's hardly unusual.

The wheels, however, are unusual as wires were standard on the 20 and those artillery-style were generally on the older cars, though no doubt could be specified if desired - I have a 1920's factory shot and every 20 chassis is fitted with wires.

I assume that the photo isn't dated?

TheBALDpuma

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Saturday 4th March 2023
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Thanks for the info guys. No it's not dated unfortunately

Puddenchucker

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223 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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I'm no expert on these, but possibly a Hooper body:




or maybe Thrupp & Maberly


TarquinMX5

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85 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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It could be Hooper as many of them looked very similar, though I always think that the best way of determining the coachbuilder with any degree of certainty, particularly on these old ones due to the number of coachbuilders around then (and all chassis having coachbuilt bodies), is to look at the coachbuilder's plate fitted to the car biggrin

As an aside, I've recently seen another late-model 20 fitted with artillery-style wheels, so there were obviously a few around but it's not really my era, tbh.

davepen

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275 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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YO6088 is listed in Fasal's book on the 20hp. Chassis GOK57
It is a 1926 Hooper Landaulette, first owner was a Mrs L Knowles.

TarquinMX5

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Monday 6th March 2023
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TheBALDpuma

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Monday 6th March 2023
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davepen said:
YO6088 is listed in Fasal's book on the 20hp. Chassis GOK57
It is a 1926 Hooper Landaulette, first owner was a Mrs L Knowles.
Amazing thank you!! What's Fasal's book??

My mum was trying to find out the original owner so she'll be happy someone cracket it for her, thanks!

davepen

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Monday 6th March 2023
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https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookDetailsPL?b...

The Appendix has a list of all chassis, first owners and if known to the RREC, owners in 1978.

Mikebentley

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145 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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oP the great great grandfather was a unit.

dandarez

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288 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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Search around before jumping in. Copies can be found on Amazon and Ebay etc.
This one has only a couple days left or so, starting at £69 (lots of pics to show condition, which is what you want).

NOTHING whatsoever to do with me by the way.
I'm just a retired book publisher who likes books and I having looked at the pics with this one I do just love the ribboned 'bookmark' (if I'd seen this years ago I'd have used a bookmark similar in some of the books I've published).
Blowing the photos up it does look like there is some very light 'spotting' on the pages shown, but take into account it was published 44 yrs ago.
ASK pertinent questions before bidding. Ebay link below

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115717730126?hash=item1...



All I'd add is try not to type Rolls-Royce without the hyphen, it's necessary and needed!

Edit
Just looked at that again on ebay and it's a 2nd edition published in 1988 (personally, I'd go for a 1979 1st edition myself, unless it was 'updated').
Printed by Burgess & Son Ltd Abingdon (quality printer at the time) just down the road from me, now long gone. I had two friends who worked there in the late 60s when I also worked in the printing industry.
Also noted some copies I've spotted have the 'author' as the publisher (I doubt that's correct), some say published by Motorbooks International (I recall them but thought they were in the USA) and another has Dalton Watson as the publisher. Confused? You will be!


Edited by dandarez on Monday 6th March 22:04

davepen

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275 months

Tuesday 7th March 2023
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dandarez said:
Search around before jumping in.
It might be a bit expensive for one line in an appendix, but the book is very good, including a chapter on the school of instruction, for "customers to send their man." My copy (from ebay many years ago) is a 1979 and (self)-published by John Fasal. The 1988 reprint date would be when I got
Dad his copy from Hunt House, when I lived nearby in Northants. The author, John Fasal, hosted a meeting at his house last year to celebrate 100 years of the announcement of the 20hp Rolls Royce.

The RREC at Hunt House do have the works records rescued from the factory.
This would have the first owner, and possibly later ones.
The club sell copies of these records.
In the case of "my" car (1924) show the same owner had the car back to the works in 1932 for a service.
It also states Dunlop Steel Artillery wheels, with straight sided tyres, as shown in your picture, although well-base wire wheels were fitted by the 1950s.