Daft Ways to Treat a Classic

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Keep it stiff

Original Poster:

1,781 posts

178 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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Only a complete dipstick would hand-paint a car and paint around the number plate rather than remove four screws. Mind you, I guess I should be thankful that at least he painted around it rather than over it!


dr_gn

16,362 posts

189 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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If you’re brush painting a car, you’re probably not concerned with perfection, so I can’t see why that would be particularly surprising?

Caddyshack

11,322 posts

211 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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People have been known to paint around pictures and furniture in their houses.

Dynion Araf Uchaf

4,625 posts

228 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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I’m going to say that no painting has occurred and instead it’s the difference between paint exposed to the sun and paint that isn’t. Red is ripe for a bit of fading.

soxboy

6,502 posts

224 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
I’m going to say that no painting has occurred and instead it’s the difference between paint exposed to the sun and paint that isn’t. Red is ripe for a bit of fading.
This. Red is one of the worst colours for it, but it happens to an extent on pretty much all colours - have a look at a van where they’ve peeled off the signwriting.

bongtom

2,018 posts

88 months

Monday 20th February 2023
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About 13 years ago my mate had a party. He owns a few classics and lots of land. We all got a bit tipsy and set out a course with cones on the grass. Our choices of car were 72 Mini, Austin 1100, Jaguar 420 (!), Land Rover Mk1 and some French thing. I chose the 1100 and totally ragged it to within an inch of it's life, including handbrake turns and reverse J turns, as everyone else did.

It was all a good laugh.

Now I feel guilty about abusing those lovely classics, however, the 1100 and Mini did not seem that bothered and he still has them today. The LR not so much and it overheated!

Stick Legs

5,605 posts

170 months

Monday 20th February 2023
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Some mates & I once ragged a Mk.1 Renault 5 3 door in Bronze around a field until it broke.

Really wish I hadn’t now. It was a charming little thing that our idiot teenage brains couldn’t understand.

bumskins

1,766 posts

20 months

Monday 20th February 2023
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Stick Legs said:
Some mates & I once ragged a Mk.1 Renault 5 3 door in Bronze around a field until it broke.

Really wish I hadn’t now. It was a charming little thing that our idiot teenage brains couldn’t understand.
A friend and I used to do the same with his Volvo 340 as 12/13 year olds, once that broke it was replaced by a somewhat less-athletic VW Golf Mk 2 with some woeful un-turbocharged diesel engine. To be fair we tried for years to kill that thing, when I last enquired about it 10 years ago it was still running!

CLX

336 posts

62 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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This Beadles About clip makes me cringe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOEczuT-lGI


tapkaJohnD

1,983 posts

209 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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kis,
You are most mistaken.

Of all the car colours, especially in those days, red fades more than any other. What you show is a faded boot lid, where the number plate has shaded the paint from sunlight, an preserved the original colour.

John

brman

1,233 posts

114 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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tapkaJohnD said:
kis,
You are most mistaken.

Of all the car colours, especially in those days, red fades more than any other. What you show is a faded boot lid, where the number plate has shaded the paint from sunlight, an preserved the original colour.

John
except on that one you can actually see the (rough) paint line round the number plate and the overal texture looks more like artex.... wink

ETA. For those that do not see it, click on the image to show the original and then zoom in.

Turbobanana

6,634 posts

206 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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tapkaJohnD said:
kis,
You are most mistaken.

Of all the car colours, especially in those days, red fades more than any other. What you show is a faded boot lid, where the number plate has shaded the paint from sunlight, an preserved the original colour.

John
No disrespect John, but I think Keep It Stiff knows his way around a car well enough to spot that it's been hand painted. It's not his first rodeo with Gilbern GTs, either. I assume this one is the V8 beast?

untakenname

5,016 posts

197 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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I've noticed a few classics being used this winter even with all the road salt that's gone down, I wonder if they are new owners or if their cars are very well rust proofed.

Keep it stiff

Original Poster:

1,781 posts

178 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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Turbobanana said:
No disrespect John, but I think Keep It Stiff knows his way around a car well enough to spot that it's been hand painted. It's not his first rodeo with Gilbern GTs, either. I assume this one is the V8 beast?
Yes it is the Chevy GT. The car has been hand-painted, it has created a pretty horrible finish, it looks like water droplets on a polished surface over most of the car! Actually I was quite pleased to find this patch under the number plate, I want to restore as close to original as possible and this gives a good reference.

I'm told that the original colour was probably Peony Red, a Ford colour with the reference 177-27353, a Google search on this number reveals nothing. Does anyone have an info on this? Searching Peony Red without reference number produces a few images however these look like the pink end of the red spectrum when the colour under the number plate looks more like an orange shade of red.




P5BNij

15,875 posts

111 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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I don't know if this helps, but it looks very similar to the BL colour 'blaze' as used on the 1970-71 Mk3 Mini Cooper S amongst others.

Keep it stiff

Original Poster:

1,781 posts

178 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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P5BNij said:
I don't know if this helps, but it looks very similar to the BL colour 'blaze' as used on the 1970-71 Mk3 Mini Cooper S amongst others.
Best I can tell from a screen image the BL Blaze looks very close. Thanks for this suggestion, I will certainly take a closer look.

aterribleusername

318 posts

68 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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You could lightly polish one small part of the original paint then take the boot lid to a paint shop that can scan the paint and generate a match or two, help narrow it down. Have done this on a few random things (not cars) that I restored over the years and it's never failed yet.

hidetheelephants

27,214 posts

198 months

Tuesday 21st February 2023
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Isn't that blistering rather than a rough finish from a brush or whatever?

4rephill

5,059 posts

183 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2023
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untakenname said:
I've noticed a few classics being used this winter even with all the road salt that's gone down, I wonder if they are new owners or if their cars are very well rust proofed.
Possibly.

Some people buy restored cars, or have them restored, and see it as being like a "re-start" for the car, and start using it as a daily runner in all weathers again, just like when the car was new.

They could also be short term owners, taking all the plaudits for using their classic cars in all weather conditions, and being told how cool they look, whilst at the same time happily knowing that they will off-load the car in a few months time, leaving someone else to have to deal with the salt induced corrosion, later on in the car's life time.